Yes, and I only found one typo in the definition for the exhaust port. That is unless there is something called a “Death Start.”
It seems like every time a chart is submitted to Graphjam that has a long breakdown has one or two little flaws like that.
well
it’s still
$15,960,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (1.596X10^25 FYI)
which is enough for me to live another sextillion years(if i spend 1 mil a year) which the earth will b long gone im not sure if the universe will ever live tat long
Wookieepedia says the first one is 160KM and the second one is 900KM in diameter.
However, I do remember that basically being debated figures considering that there are several novels and reference books that can’t make a consensus on the size. So who knows.
I just double-checked. Wookieepedia has this to say:
“There are discrepancies regarding the size of the Death Star II, which has generated some controversy. The West End Games RPG initially claimed that the second Death Star had a diameter of 160 kilometers. The majority of Expanded Universe material since then has repeated this number, although the Inside the Worlds of Star Wars Trilogy fact book, via detailed scaling of the station in the film[15] and statements by ILM visual effects designer Richard Edlund show that the second Death Star was actually over 900 kilometers in diameter.[16] The Official Site’s Databank updated its article in 2008 to reflect the higher number.[2] Star Wars Insider 105 also included this size. “
That, and the taxes he gets. According to wookieepedia, the Empire at it’s peak had 1.5 million member worlds and 69 million colonies, protectorates, and puppet worlds. That’s a looot of tax money and a lot of worlds that can be strip-mined.
Well, volume and diameter are related. However, I think it required it to be a perfect sphere, unless I’m mistaken.. I don’t think the Death Star was ever described as being a perfect sphere, and the Earth certainly isn’t a perfect sphere.
just really sorry to disappoint but its exactly the same, the volume depends solely on radius/diameter and about not being a perfect sphere, the inaccuracy is minimal.
i really get depressed with the kind of intelligence i get confronted with.
Not only would it cost an astronomical quantity of money, but I believe you have to exhaust a heck of a lot of planets to get the ammount of steel required to build Death Star.
Beside that, how does Death Star get it’s power. The energy necessary to blow up a planet is extreme, more than our sun produces in two weeks! What are they using, magic perhaps?
Though even without the specifics, it’s kind of obvious that any reactor capable of providing two movies’ worth of pyrotechnics is certainly large enough to power a laser.
And are you an idiot? It’s science-fiction for a reason. Are you going to next complain about how they can travel faster than light, about how they have beam weapons that don’t blow up in their hands, about how they have controlled plasma-swords? How about how they can bloody choke people from far away, going to complain about how that’s unrealistic?
The largest single factor in the death star estimate is transport, a factor due to our largely inefficient chemical rockets. Given the huge use of anti-grav tech in Lucas’ universe I think we can discount that expense almost completely.
As to iron, one wouldn’t mine that from a planet in a space faring civilization. Asteroids are easy, nickle iron ones could be tethered together and stripped efficiently.
As to economies of scale, Coresecant is a city sized planet. We’re talking total populations in the trillions on hundreds of worlds.
Yes, the death stars were large scale projects even for the Galactic Empire, but hardly implausible in their scale. Admittedly for those of us in 2011, we’ll just have to settle for a bit smaller space station… for now.
StarWars is a lil’ old now, many of the technologycal explanations or just the technologies themselves looked cool back in the day, but today they seem just stupid. It’s a cool universe, but hardly can live up to -let’s say it- Mass Effect’s You can flame me on this, but since MAss Effect is the newer universe, it can serve the need for a better crafted world out. Still far from reality (sadly, because I would really really want to live in that world).
I do believe that we’re coming into the “Informational” age (empire earth powa), just look around you, how massive this internet community bacame. Where will this lead? We’ll see.
But if I’m to guess, we won’t see any Death Stars lasering down planets!
People being impaled on spikes, getting the organs and muscles of their body turned into cybernetic parts, and turned into Space-Zombies.
A race of giant living machines that show up every few million years to kill everybody and then go back to hibernating.
People being melted down into goop, which is used to build a giant human skeleton that will become a reaper.
A species that the game developers themselves said were made just to fill the “Different colored alien chick” quota (the Asari).
Hell, I like Mass Effect as well, but it’s like all sci-fi. Pretty cool, but also pretty freaking retarded as well. Not to mention mostly unobtainable.
The Star Wars movies (at least ignoring the prequels) are basically sci-fi translations of classic epic stories about a hero’s journey. The mentor, the princess in a castle, redemption, etc. That’s honestly more universal and long-lasting than the Mass Effect series.
Also, did you really just say “Informational” age, trying to make a reference to Empire Earth? First off, it’s f**king “Information age”. Second, there isn’t even an “Information age” in Empire Earth. It’s “Digital age”.
scary, because everything we know about conventional physics says most machines are only maybe 25% efficient, so on one side you have a planet destroying laser that’s 20km across and all the waste heat from that’s dumped through a tiny hole on the other side?
It’s not unreasonable to think the death star had other exhaust ports and other ways to dissipate heat. The exhaust port the rebels used in the movie probably wasn’t the only one they could’ve chosen.
Well, who would launch all 7,200 fighters to deal with a seemingly minor attack? The Imperials probably thought it was a last-ditch diversionary attack to give the rebel base more time to evacuate. The Imperials were overconfident, but the reason why the Death Star was destroyed was human error in the design stage and during the battle.
Modern-day US aircraft carriers carry around 64 aircraft. But if they’re attacked, they’re not going to launch all of them unless it was a major attack. It would be chaotic otherwise. Same with the Death Star. They thought it was a minor diversion and treated it as such.
yet more proof that the empire were the good guys, and the rebels the evil scum of the galaxy
look at the massive hit to the economy blowing up a death star mid construction would cause! besides the thousands of soldiers who lost their jobs or died ( think about the families of the non clones for instance) there is the matter of all the millions of tonnes of steel that are now no longer needed
Ringworld: 92,955,80 miles in diameter, 997000 miles in width, 600000000000 square miles surface area. It uses it’s sun as a giant laser for defense. In comparison, the death star is a speck of dust. Hell, EARTH is just a speck of dust.
that’s a hell of a long nutshell…
Yes, and I only found one typo in the definition for the exhaust port. That is unless there is something called a “Death Start.”
It seems like every time a chart is submitted to Graphjam that has a long breakdown has one or two little flaws like that.
Because “too much” is not a word in Emperor’s dictionary.
well
it’s still
$15,960,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (1.596X10^25 FYI)
which is enough for me to live another sextillion years(if i spend 1 mil a year) which the earth will b long gone im not sure if the universe will ever live tat long
The diameter of the first one was 120km, and the second one was 160km – just FYI
Kind of sad that I know that…
Wookieepedia says the first one is 160KM and the second one is 900KM in diameter.
However, I do remember that basically being debated figures considering that there are several novels and reference books that can’t make a consensus on the size. So who knows.
To go along with my first comment:
I just double-checked. Wookieepedia has this to say:
“There are discrepancies regarding the size of the Death Star II, which has generated some controversy. The West End Games RPG initially claimed that the second Death Star had a diameter of 160 kilometers. The majority of Expanded Universe material since then has repeated this number, although the Inside the Worlds of Star Wars Trilogy fact book, via detailed scaling of the station in the film[15] and statements by ILM visual effects designer Richard Edlund show that the second Death Star was actually over 900 kilometers in diameter.[16] The Official Site’s Databank updated its article in 2008 to reflect the higher number.[2] Star Wars Insider 105 also included this size. “
… haven’t we had this one already? Like… yesterday?
seriously how did the emperor afford the Death Star?
I’m guessing that whole “vastly superior technology” thing helped bring the costs down.
That, and the taxes he gets. According to wookieepedia, the Empire at it’s peak had 1.5 million member worlds and 69 million colonies, protectorates, and puppet worlds. That’s a looot of tax money and a lot of worlds that can be strip-mined.
earth = 259.874.989.035 cubic miles
death star = 514.230 cubic miles
ratio = earth is 505.367 times the size of death star
sorry
Maybe not by volume…
yes by volume. cubic miles is a measurement of volume.
I think what Le Q means is “Maybe by diameter, rather than volume…”
but tats not how u compare sizes
And that’s not how you spell “that’s”, or “you”.
There are two ways to compare sizes between planets. There’s volume, and then there’s diameter/radius. Both are acceptable.
And try not to type like an idiot.
If it’s a sphere, won’t the volume and the diameter be closely correlated?
Well, volume and diameter are related. However, I think it required it to be a perfect sphere, unless I’m mistaken.. I don’t think the Death Star was ever described as being a perfect sphere, and the Earth certainly isn’t a perfect sphere.
just really sorry to disappoint but its exactly the same, the volume depends solely on radius/diameter and about not being a perfect sphere, the inaccuracy is minimal.
i really get depressed with the kind of intelligence i get confronted with.
just to clear things up: if sphere 1 is twice the radius of sphere 2, then the volume of sphere 1 is eight times the volume of sphere 2.
First you herped, then you derped. Congrats.
“Tractor bean”?
The first thing I noticed. So what does it do? Attract space beans for space bean soup?
Built on wookie slave labor.
“that could cause the Death Start to explode”
someone didn’t proofread this…
why would you need nitrogen? Why would you need Oxygen? Isn’t Oxygen included in transport, or did The Emperor go cheap?
Nitrogen for fusion I am assuming.
Pure oxygen can be poisonous. Normal, breathable air is a mix of nitrogen and oxygen (mostly nitrogen).
Not to mention the fact that pure oxygen would cause you and the entire station to burst into flames.
who cares?
Apparently you did enough to comment. :-3
Star Wars fans (like me)
lol giant hole * i have never seen star wars just the family guy version* *lol*
Are you retarded or just a thirteen-year old? Wait, don’t answer that. They’re the same thing.
I notice there is no mention of the canteen:
Came here to say “where’s the canteen?” as well.
i think its now clear that darth vader went to a new evil for this one. tax avoidance
Not only would it cost an astronomical quantity of money, but I believe you have to exhaust a heck of a lot of planets to get the ammount of steel required to build Death Star.
Beside that, how does Death Star get it’s power. The energy necessary to blow up a planet is extreme, more than our sun produces in two weeks! What are they using, magic perhaps?
Dear God, not the extended universe! KILL IT!!!
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hypermatter
Though even without the specifics, it’s kind of obvious that any reactor capable of providing two movies’ worth of pyrotechnics is certainly large enough to power a laser.
*amount
*its
And are you an idiot? It’s science-fiction for a reason. Are you going to next complain about how they can travel faster than light, about how they have beam weapons that don’t blow up in their hands, about how they have controlled plasma-swords? How about how they can bloody choke people from far away, going to complain about how that’s unrealistic?
bro… lol they have the f**king force. The emperor is a SITH LORD they are far beyond magic.
Sauna–Hidden LEGO Star Wars reference? A lot of their bonus rooms were saunas…
The largest single factor in the death star estimate is transport, a factor due to our largely inefficient chemical rockets. Given the huge use of anti-grav tech in Lucas’ universe I think we can discount that expense almost completely.
As to iron, one wouldn’t mine that from a planet in a space faring civilization. Asteroids are easy, nickle iron ones could be tethered together and stripped efficiently.
As to economies of scale, Coresecant is a city sized planet. We’re talking total populations in the trillions on hundreds of worlds.
Yes, the death stars were large scale projects even for the Galactic Empire, but hardly implausible in their scale. Admittedly for those of us in 2011, we’ll just have to settle for a bit smaller space station… for now.
sorry, but i think you mean planet sized city. city sized planet would be just awfully tiny
Unless, of course, that city was the size of a planet. Then the city sized planet would be the size of a planet.
I see what you did there.
We just took the money out of your banks accounts. It was rather easy.
TL;DR
Thank you for that contribution. It was truly needed. Now we all know that you don’t have much of an attention span. My life is complete now.
StarWars is a lil’ old now, many of the technologycal explanations or just the technologies themselves looked cool back in the day, but today they seem just stupid. It’s a cool universe, but hardly can live up to -let’s say it- Mass Effect’s You can flame me on this, but since MAss Effect is the newer universe, it can serve the need for a better crafted world out. Still far from reality (sadly, because I would really really want to live in that world).
I do believe that we’re coming into the “Informational” age (empire earth powa), just look around you, how massive this internet community bacame. Where will this lead? We’ll see.
But if I’m to guess, we won’t see any Death Stars lasering down planets!
So a universe that includes:
People being impaled on spikes, getting the organs and muscles of their body turned into cybernetic parts, and turned into Space-Zombies.
A race of giant living machines that show up every few million years to kill everybody and then go back to hibernating.
People being melted down into goop, which is used to build a giant human skeleton that will become a reaper.
A species that the game developers themselves said were made just to fill the “Different colored alien chick” quota (the Asari).
Hell, I like Mass Effect as well, but it’s like all sci-fi. Pretty cool, but also pretty freaking retarded as well. Not to mention mostly unobtainable.
The Star Wars movies (at least ignoring the prequels) are basically sci-fi translations of classic epic stories about a hero’s journey. The mentor, the princess in a castle, redemption, etc. That’s honestly more universal and long-lasting than the Mass Effect series.
Also, did you really just say “Informational” age, trying to make a reference to Empire Earth? First off, it’s f**king “Information age”. Second, there isn’t even an “Information age” in Empire Earth. It’s “Digital age”.
^ This
Needs more scale information. Exactly how big is this “thermal exhaust port” you speak of?
a few metres across, I think.
scary, because everything we know about conventional physics says most machines are only maybe 25% efficient, so on one side you have a planet destroying laser that’s 20km across and all the waste heat from that’s dumped through a tiny hole on the other side?
It’s not unreasonable to think the death star had other exhaust ports and other ways to dissipate heat. The exhaust port the rebels used in the movie probably wasn’t the only one they could’ve chosen.
About the size of a womp rat!
Why does no one else know this?
Not all of us grew up on Tatooine.
The exhaust port is two meters wide. That’s said by General Dodonna in the movie during the pre-flight brief before the Battle of Yavin.
and only a handful of men needed to destroy it.
Yep, only needed one guy to blow up the Death Star. Sure, after a bunch of other people died, after others failed to do the same, etc.
Sure, someone might kill dozens of people. But if in the end they’re killed by a single person weaker than them, then they’re a total pussy. /sarcasm.
Nice of them to cut off the URL of the source material to cover with their logo. Really classy, graphjam.
i wouldn’t post empty graphs if i were u.
come onnnn, give them credit
http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/02/28/the-most-iconic-fictional-vehicle-the-death-star-infographic/
7.200 starfighters? And it took how many rebel fighters to destroy the first Death Star, like, 30?
Come on…
Well, who would launch all 7,200 fighters to deal with a seemingly minor attack? The Imperials probably thought it was a last-ditch diversionary attack to give the rebel base more time to evacuate. The Imperials were overconfident, but the reason why the Death Star was destroyed was human error in the design stage and during the battle.
Modern-day US aircraft carriers carry around 64 aircraft. But if they’re attacked, they’re not going to launch all of them unless it was a major attack. It would be chaotic otherwise. Same with the Death Star. They thought it was a minor diversion and treated it as such.
Thats nothing… google search the Ringworld
Or… You could just go to the Lego store and buy and build your own death star and save a few septillion dollars…..
Yea, but could it blow up a planet? And I mean a real planet, not a lego planet.
Because if it could, then that would be AWESOME. And incredibly stupid and dangerous.
TL;DR
Yet again, thank you for the contribution. Good to let other people know how little of an attention span you have.
yet more proof that the empire were the good guys, and the rebels the evil scum of the galaxy
look at the massive hit to the economy blowing up a death star mid construction would cause! besides the thousands of soldiers who lost their jobs or died ( think about the families of the non clones for instance) there is the matter of all the millions of tonnes of steel that are now no longer needed
bastard rebels
Taking out the unneeded transport and air reduces the price by a gazillion times.
tl;dr.
Ringworld: 92,955,80 miles in diameter, 997000 miles in width, 600000000000 square miles surface area. It uses it’s sun as a giant laser for defense. In comparison, the death star is a speck of dust. Hell, EARTH is just a speck of dust.
I KNOW i’ll receive some harsh replies from this.
http://benchu.com/images/ringworld.jpg