Well considering it’s not a 1:1 pumpkin ratio but two different measurements of the pumpkin. No. It doesn’t cancel out. FUD fail.
2(pi)r divided by 2(r)
The 2(r) cancels out, and you get pi. It doesn’t matter what the item is. So in one sense, the word pumpkin doesn’t apply but only because there aren’t legitimately different kinds of Pi with different values. It’s not because pumpkin cancels itself out
Lemme try and help you understand why you are wrong, imagine that pumpkin is instead the number 5.
5*(2πr) / 5*(2r) = π
Pumpkin, just like 5, would cancel out. If it had said “pumpkin’s” to show that it isn’t a variable or measurement of some sort, but in fact was the circumference and diameter of the pumpkin, then maybe you could get away with that argument.
A Random Pooka, what the hell are you talking about? “Pumpkin” cancels itself out, creating the number 1. That’s the very definition of something canceling itself out.
That’s only if it’s Pumpkin TIMES circumference over pumpkin times diameter. In this it’s more likely a descriptive term for the single values of circumference and diameter, and therefore correct.
If no symbol means multiplication, then what symbol do you use to indicate that something is just a compound word?
e.g.
Energy = Mass * (Speed of light)^2
is not the same as
Energy = Mass * (Speed * of * light)^2
That was an extremely terrible example of your point.
A better illustration of Laureo’s point is E=mc^2. it is automatically assumed that “m” is being multiplied by (c^2). There is no symbol stating so, yet is done by default.
In the example you used, you broke down the variable, disregarded it and used real English to describe it. That is not what happens, and does not illustrate your point, whatever that may have been.
Regarding the question, though, it’s simply a variable. Protip: “Speed of light” is not a compound word, so you needn’t have even bothered with wondering.
First, the careful observer would note that “Speed of light” is not a compound word. A compound word is a combination of two words into one, unbroken word. For example, firetruck. “Speed of light” isn’t a word. It’s a phrase.
Second, one would never use a phrase in a mathematical statement of any sort unless you were demonstrating it to someone you were teaching. “e=mc^2″ will likely be recognized by someone ignorant of it’s meaning, but it will mean nothing to them. Your way of breaking it up into “Energy = Mass * (speed of light)^2″ gives it some sort of meaning that otherwise random variables can’t communicate. But you aren’t teaching now.
Third, provided you have advanced beyond elementary school, you would definitely recognize 2a as being 2 * a, or xy as x * y. If not, you can’t really be arguing your point. You just can’t.
Actually…you don’t multiply “Mass” by “The speed of light”^2. You multiply M by C^2, where in the given information M=mass and C=speed of light. There are no words in a proper equation. There can, however, be symbols that represent a word or a series of words.
The equation for which the conversation is about is represented by (C sub P)/(D sub P). However, what is written is (PC)/(PD), where in all examples C=Circumference, D=Diameter, and P=Pumpkin
I don’t know the proper way to do subscript in this area, so assume that sub is putting P as a descriptor in subscript.
I agree with theinternetisseriousbusiness why are we making a huge deal out of all this anyway? It was a joke, it was clever, nerd pwned the maker, nuff said.
I agree with =O. I read the pumpkin as specifying what the object whose circumference and diameter are being measured, and I think Potato-Monster has a WIN!
A pumpkins circumference divided by a pumpkins diameter would give you a number close to the actually value of pi. . aka the pumpkin pi. . not the exact pi
Why should circumference have a descriptor, and not diameter? What if you want to calculate the pumkin circumference versus another plants diameter? The descriptor should be assigned to any variable you are describing.
ahem . . .
i totally agree with you about the math stuff, but you should have said “to get pumpkin PI u need . . .”
however, to get pumpkin PIE you would need a pie crust, filling, etc. pi is my fav number!
If you really want to be technical, the only way that it would be true is if diameter = 4. The TRUE calculation of circumference is: circumference = Pi(r*r), and NOT circumference = Pi(r+r). Two is the only number that is the same added to itself as it is when multiplied by itself.
Don’t pick on nerds; for they will someday control your tax refund.
Can someone like edit this post to be accurate? It’s driving me nuts… and if it was an unoriginal post -to Zack’s point – how could this fail continue on without being corrected??
Well, since PUMPKIN is not perfectly circular, one might say we get a unique Pi for every particular pumpkin. Even though Pi is always Pi, the ratio between circumference and diameter may be different each time one measures these… La di da…
All above just can’t stop arguing about pi. Said comments above are just an annoying nerd flame war. All comments below are awesome. I’m neutral, like Sweden.
PI represents a mathematical constant, it does not have an unit of measurement, and it cannot have a descriptor.
If you divide the circumference of a pumpkin with it’s diameter you would get just PI.
However, for the purposes of this website saying that it’s Pumpkin PI is a lot funnier, and I have no problem with accepting it as correct.
LIES. Pumpkin over pumpkin would cancel. Math fail.
The nerd is correct.
Well considering it’s not a 1:1 pumpkin ratio but two different measurements of the pumpkin. No. It doesn’t cancel out. FUD fail.
2(pi)r divided by 2(r)
The 2(r) cancels out, and you get pi. It doesn’t matter what the item is. So in one sense, the word pumpkin doesn’t apply but only because there aren’t legitimately different kinds of Pi with different values. It’s not because pumpkin cancels itself out
A Random Pooka is the winner of this conversation.
Lemme try and help you understand why you are wrong, imagine that pumpkin is instead the number 5.
5*(2πr) / 5*(2r) = π
Pumpkin, just like 5, would cancel out. If it had said “pumpkin’s” to show that it isn’t a variable or measurement of some sort, but in fact was the circumference and diameter of the pumpkin, then maybe you could get away with that argument.
really really glad someone caught that as well.
i was thinking you could also do pumpkin(circ/dia)=pumpkin pi
A Random Pooka, what the hell are you talking about? “Pumpkin” cancels itself out, creating the number 1. That’s the very definition of something canceling itself out.
Why is it such a big deal? It’s funny. No need to explain why it’s wrong/why it’s right.
I agree…Nerd is correct. Pumpkin Circumference/Diameter = Pumpkin Pi
Nerd WIN.
That’s only if it’s Pumpkin TIMES circumference over pumpkin times diameter. In this it’s more likely a descriptive term for the single values of circumference and diameter, and therefore correct.
well no, if theres no symbol, then it’s automatically multiplication.
Subscript is the answer.
OMGUFAILSOHARD
If no symbol means multiplication, then what symbol do you use to indicate that something is just a compound word?
e.g.
Energy = Mass * (Speed of light)^2
is not the same as
Energy = Mass * (Speed * of * light)^2
which makes no sense.
That was an extremely terrible example of your point.
A better illustration of Laureo’s point is E=mc^2. it is automatically assumed that “m” is being multiplied by (c^2). There is no symbol stating so, yet is done by default.
In the example you used, you broke down the variable, disregarded it and used real English to describe it. That is not what happens, and does not illustrate your point, whatever that may have been.
Regarding the question, though, it’s simply a variable. Protip: “Speed of light” is not a compound word, so you needn’t have even bothered with wondering.
If you want to know what my point was, try reading the post I was responding to, moron.
And if you don’t know what my point was, how does that first line of your post make any sense?
First, the careful observer would note that “Speed of light” is not a compound word. A compound word is a combination of two words into one, unbroken word. For example, firetruck. “Speed of light” isn’t a word. It’s a phrase.
Second, one would never use a phrase in a mathematical statement of any sort unless you were demonstrating it to someone you were teaching. “e=mc^2″ will likely be recognized by someone ignorant of it’s meaning, but it will mean nothing to them. Your way of breaking it up into “Energy = Mass * (speed of light)^2″ gives it some sort of meaning that otherwise random variables can’t communicate. But you aren’t teaching now.
Third, provided you have advanced beyond elementary school, you would definitely recognize 2a as being 2 * a, or xy as x * y. If not, you can’t really be arguing your point. You just can’t.
C stands for celaris. While it does mean the same thing, it is not the same word.
“The speed that light travels, yeah” means the same thing too.
Actually…you don’t multiply “Mass” by “The speed of light”^2. You multiply M by C^2, where in the given information M=mass and C=speed of light. There are no words in a proper equation. There can, however, be symbols that represent a word or a series of words.
The equation for which the conversation is about is represented by (C sub P)/(D sub P). However, what is written is (PC)/(PD), where in all examples C=Circumference, D=Diameter, and P=Pumpkin
I don’t know the proper way to do subscript in this area, so assume that sub is putting P as a descriptor in subscript.
Learn to math better xD
While it’s common practice to use single-letter variables in favor of full words, it is in no way a hard and fast rule to do so.
Especially on a joke website.
*patpat* I hope you learn past grade school math someday.
What you all do with your free time makes me sad.
Maybe the fact that I took the time to read and comment makes me just as sad.
I agree with theinternetisseriousbusiness why are we making a huge deal out of all this anyway? It was a joke, it was clever, nerd pwned the maker, nuff said.
I agree with =O. I read the pumpkin as specifying what the object whose circumference and diameter are being measured, and I think Potato-Monster has a WIN!
+1. Pumpkin is part of the numerator’s and denominator’s description. It is a standalone variable in this equation.
I was going to make that exact comment…
It should be:
(Pumpkin*Circumference)/Diameter
Thank you!!
That is the first thing I thought of when I saw this equation. Why must the internet fail at math?? Why, internet, why??
pumpkin circumference/pumpkin diameter = pumpkin pi is exactly right just as circumference/diameter = pi … This is Math not Language Arts
I prefer Pumpkin (Circumference/Diameter)
It’s the pumpkin’s circumference over the diameter,
not pumpkin over pumpkin
DUMBASS!!
A pumpkins circumference divided by a pumpkins diameter would give you a number close to the actually value of pi. . aka the pumpkin pi. . not the exact pi
pumkin/pumkin=1 giving an answer of 1 pi
SIMPLE MATH – YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG.
pumpkin circumference/ diameter = pumpkin pie
who allowed this to be posted :O
+1. Pumpkin is part of the numerator’s and denominator’s description. It is not a standalone variable.
=0:
Since when do you see descriptive words in math equations?
the equation should be:
Pumpkin Circumference = Pumpkin Pi
—————————–
Diameter
Why should circumference have a descriptor, and not diameter? What if you want to calculate the pumkin circumference versus another plants diameter? The descriptor should be assigned to any variable you are describing.
The point is that descriptors should not be found in the formula and that “Pumpkin” is itself a quantity rather than a descriptor.
At first I was all
…then I realised the pumpkins cancelled and I was like :’(
You are maybe forgetting that you can never cancel a pumpkin.
Sweet potato pie is better anyway.
NO IT ISN’T BLASPHEMER! also i agree with =O too, and the rest of you are being surprisingly spiteful about a lighthearted pun.
JUST MAKE IT pumpkin^2 circumference over pumpkin diameter
Better yet:
Circumference(pumpkin)
——————— = π(pumpkin)
Diameter(pumpkin)
And now we know why there is no such thing as simple math.
+1. And this is also why there are few math lols.
FAIL the answer is pi, not pumpkin pie, to get pumpkin pie u need pumpkin squared circumference/pumpkin diameter
ahem . . .
pi is my fav number!
i totally agree with you about the math stuff, but you should have said “to get pumpkin PI u need . . .”
however, to get pumpkin PIE you would need a pie crust, filling, etc.
Technically, it would only be pi because the pumpkins in the numerator and denominator cancel out.
i still LOLed.
i love the idea
THANKS FOR OVER-ANALYZING THE PUNCH LINE!!
Who the bloody hell cares. It’s still an amusing pun! Even my mathematics professor father-in-law would have thought it was funny. Sheesh.
If you really want to be technical, the only way that it would be true is if diameter = 4. The TRUE calculation of circumference is: circumference = Pi(r*r), and NOT circumference = Pi(r+r). Two is the only number that is the same added to itself as it is when multiplied by itself.
Don’t pick on nerds; for they will someday control your tax refund.
Uh, Tim, try again. circumference is definitely Pi*(r+r). Pi(r*r) is the area.
Two is the only number that is the same added to itself as it is when multiplied by itself.
ZERO = ZERO * ZERO
ZERO = ZERO + ZERO
the nerd fails again!!!!!
Oops, that’s area. I guess I’m not that much of a nerd after all.
Ouch, man
And now I want pie.
How does something this unoriginal make the front page? Seriously, I saw this somewhere ages ago.
Can someone like edit this post to be accurate? It’s driving me nuts… and if it was an unoriginal post -to Zack’s point – how could this fail continue on without being corrected??
also, smarty pantses, it’s spelled PIE
dummies…
Guys guys….
let’s say the word pumpkin in the answer ‘pumpkin pie’ is just the measurement of unit…
Well, since PUMPKIN is not perfectly circular, one might say we get a unique Pi for every particular pumpkin. Even though Pi is always Pi, the ratio between circumference and diameter may be different each time one measures these… La di da…
I like the way you think!
me too
hummm…. pumpkin pie….
Guys, you forget, WHAT PUMPKIN?
pi ftw!
I don’t want to be a Pi
All above just can’t stop arguing about pi. Said comments above are just an annoying nerd flame war. All comments below are awesome. I’m neutral, like Sweden.
Pretty sure if no symbol means multiplication then it would be
p*u*m*p*k*i*n*d*i*a*m*e*t*e*r/p*u*m*p*k*i*n*c*i*r*c*u*m*f*e*r*e*n*c*e
Considering that you DON’T USE WORDS
There is no restriction on variable names to single letters.
Um, the two Pumpkins would cancel out. The way to do it would be to only have Pumpkin in the numerator only.
PI represents a mathematical constant, it does not have an unit of measurement, and it cannot have a descriptor.
If you divide the circumference of a pumpkin with it’s diameter you would get just PI.
However, for the purposes of this website saying that it’s Pumpkin PI is a lot funnier, and I have no problem with accepting it as correct.
But a pumpkin is not a standard unit of measurement!
Yes, but it is taken as a whole value of “pumpkin”
technically, it would be pumpkin circumference over diameter=pi, the second pumpkin cancels out
sorry to get all mathsy but a pumpkin is a sphere not a circle and given that a pie is also a 3d object should we not be talking about v=4/3pi r cubed
so when did pumpkin aply to the rules of a circle ????
Let’s just forget about the math stuff thing. Let’s just enjoy a slice of pumpkin pi.
It is pumpkin CIRCUMFERENCE over pumpkin DIAMETER, so the numbers are divided as they usually would. Comment fail.