Pandora’s basically this radio website that’s supposed to tune to different music depending on your displayed tastes. Personally I’m not big on it (I turn to AOL Radio for my tunes, since they actually HAVE music from anime and video games), but my brother uses it almost daily. Suffice it to say that this graph sums up almost exactly what Pandora is.
If you both a) use aol for any purpose and b) classify your music tastes as liking music from anime and video games then it is needless to say that your music tastes are pitiful. Probably the main reason why you like those types of music is because they’ve been drilled into your brain from so many hours of watching and playing. Branch out a little bit in what you do jeez.
Nevertheless, this is exactly what Pandora is and does. Say you’re up for some 80s music so you ask it to play Peter Schilling’s “Major Tom” and a string of related stuff. It will say “Sorry, we couldn’t play ‘Major Tom’ but here’s ‘The Warrior’ by Scandal and a whole bunch of other music from the groups that made the 80s the worst musical decade in the history of pop music, and you’re totally welcome and by the way here’s why we’re so awesome.” PASS!! I have iTunes; if you don’t want to buy a lot of stuff there’s also ShoutCast and about a half dozen other sites that play any stream you could possibly want.
I beg to differ on 80s music quality – sure, synth pop and hair metal sucked horribly, but the entire underground punk and metal scenes were thriving. There was the creation of four different subgenres of metal – thrash, power, death, and black – for instance. Reign In Blood came out. Scream Bloody Gore came out. To Mega Therion came out. Black Metal (the Venom album) came out. Just a few.
I take offense to that. There were plenty of good hair metal bands in the 80s. Don’t care too much about the way they dressed, but their music was really good.
If you don’t at least respect anime and video-game music, you either don’t know much about them and will be surprised someday or you will continue to be just a pretentious prick.
Have you ever played Assassin’s Creed 2? The orchestral score from that game is incredible and the artist (Jesper Kyd) is now one of my favourites, so you can get proper music out of gaming (The Call of Duty 4 and 6 scores were alright aswell) although most of the music you get wasn’t made for the game and is just taken out of what people are listening to at the time. With games like that I tend to use my own music.
YES! That is exactly what I think of! I thought the original comment was weird because of this. I am sorry to say that I may be a huge geek, but I am waaay not a gamer.
Pandora is a web site that has basically a big database of songs and has them all categorized by their characteristics; so when you log on and tell the site what songs you like, it picks songs with similar characteristics.
Sometimes it means you get an obscure artist you find you like. Sometimes it means you get reminded of music you liked a while ago and have forgotten about. Sometimes you get an obscure artist who is obscure for a really, REALLY good reason. Like, say, not being able to carry a tune.
Pandora is like Russian roulette… only with more music and less death.
Actually that happens to me too. I start it playing good music and as time goes on Pandora plays things that get farther and farther from what I actually wanted to hear until I just have to delete the station and start over
You actually delete the station and then make it again? Just refresh Pandora if you have to, though that could actually be slower… Hm.
And Pandora normally works fine for me, though normally I have it on QuickMix, and things don’t start derailing on QuickMix for a while, and I don’t listen to stuff on Pandora for large periods of time.
Though once I did get a rap song on a metal band(can’t remember the band or genre) station, and Three Days Grace on a black metal station?
I’ve found that just cleaning out my “thumbs down” list of all but the absolute worst helps revive a station that’s been going downhill.
The longer the thumbs down list, the more cases there are where you banned a song because of Trait X and Trait Y, but it also has Trait Z which is something you actually like (though you may not even notice it’s present since X and Y annoy you so much). Eventually, it starts thinking you dislike traits Z, A, B, and C when they were just incidental to the songs you banned.
The above-mentioned Britney Spears incident happened when my thumbs-down list had gotten too long. I cleaned it out (but left her on it, just to be safe) and things improved dramatically.
Depends on the Station. Al Jolson will play music close to it. Simon and Garfunkle will play music close to it. David Bowie depends (before you comment on my age, I’m 24)
Simon and Garfunkel pandora was awful. Sure Peter Paul and Mary and Glenn Campbell are other folk artists , but nobody likes both types of folk. The trick is usually to use reverse psychology. You have to find an artist which you like somewhat, that Pandora will in turn recommend good artists for.
No it doesn’t! Type something in and it says “we can’t play that so here’s this” and plays something so completely not like what you asked for that your mind goes :::::boggle::::: – SCREW Pandora.
Pandora actually works really great but it can take a LONG time for that to happen. You need to seed it with a LOT of stuff that you like – not just a few songs or artists. (For example: Creating a station like “Pearl Jam Radio” will return a bunch of crap you probably don’t like that much) Also, you really need to stay at it. I’ve had my account since 2005 and my station plays stuff I really like 99% of the time. I know that much time can seem like a big investment, but trust me, it is worth it to find the gems I otherwise wouldn’t have uncovered.
It works pretty great for me, and I have a large selection of rock/metal bands on my list. And I normally have certain bands on QuickMix at any given time because I want a certain mix of sounds, because occasionally I get in a REALLY heavy mood and just want to blast some death/black metal.
It’s only ever gone off it’s path twice for me, and it pulled up some rap song and Three Days Grace on some black metal station once.
(For example: Creating a station like “Pearl Jam Radio” will return a bunch of crap you probably don’t like that much)
–for example it might play Pearl Jam
meh, i rather enjoy pandora. its prediction is much better than grooveshark(which is also great, cuz they stream 192kbps mp3 and you can actually select your songs) If you actually know what you want to listen to, instead of looking for something else, pandora is not for you.
I think that’s why I don’t like it. I’m too picky about music; I rarely like what Pandora thinks I “should.” I’d rather just listen to a selected playlist.
I used to use pandora but I found it had a limited playlist per genre. I’ve been using last.fm more and more often. But way back when Pandora started the graph should have indicated Pandora’s algorithm that used to say ‘I see you like SYMPHONIC METAL. You should listen to BLUEGRASS.’ Always with the bluegrass. That seems to have stopped in the last two years or so.
I love the reasoning button: your Symphonic Metal artist is similar to this bluegrass artist as they both have; guitars, vocals, and odd key signatures.
You know how there are five “similar artists” listed for each band?
I was highly amused (and bemused) when I came across one that listed both Battlelore (a metal band with a lot of growled vocals) and Hannah Montana as “similar artists”.
OH YES that’s SO true! Like, I’m listening to Linkin P
ark and up comes AFI and I’m like okay… lol thanks to pandora I’ve swiched favorite bands from LP to AFI but ill bet that’s rare!
I don’t get it :S Somebody explain please??
Pandora’s basically this radio website that’s supposed to tune to different music depending on your displayed tastes. Personally I’m not big on it (I turn to AOL Radio for my tunes, since they actually HAVE music from anime and video games), but my brother uses it almost daily. Suffice it to say that this graph sums up almost exactly what Pandora is.
If you both a) use aol for any purpose and b) classify your music tastes as liking music from anime and video games then it is needless to say that your music tastes are pitiful. Probably the main reason why you like those types of music is because they’ve been drilled into your brain from so many hours of watching and playing. Branch out a little bit in what you do jeez.
Nevertheless, this is exactly what Pandora is and does. Say you’re up for some 80s music so you ask it to play Peter Schilling’s “Major Tom” and a string of related stuff. It will say “Sorry, we couldn’t play ‘Major Tom’ but here’s ‘The Warrior’ by Scandal and a whole bunch of other music from the groups that made the 80s the worst musical decade in the history of pop music, and you’re totally welcome and by the way here’s why we’re so awesome.” PASS!! I have iTunes; if you don’t want to buy a lot of stuff there’s also ShoutCast and about a half dozen other sites that play any stream you could possibly want.
I beg to differ on 80s music quality – sure, synth pop and hair metal sucked horribly, but the entire underground punk and metal scenes were thriving. There was the creation of four different subgenres of metal – thrash, power, death, and black – for instance. Reign In Blood came out. Scream Bloody Gore came out. To Mega Therion came out. Black Metal (the Venom album) came out. Just a few.
…Ew.
I take offense to that. There were plenty of good hair metal bands in the 80s. Don’t care too much about the way they dressed, but their music was really good.
I agree. There are plenty of great songs by hair metal bands. Their style was a bit odd, yes, but their music making capability is/was quite awesome.
If you don’t at least respect anime and video-game music, you either don’t know much about them and will be surprised someday or you will continue to be just a pretentious prick.
I’m with Alex there. Video games and anime have some pretty awesome music.
Have you ever played Assassin’s Creed 2? The orchestral score from that game is incredible and the artist (Jesper Kyd) is now one of my favourites, so you can get proper music out of gaming (The Call of Duty 4 and 6 scores were alright aswell) although most of the music you get wasn’t made for the game and is just taken out of what people are listening to at the time. With games like that I tend to use my own music.
Sorry, but when I hear “video game music,” I usually think of the theme from SMB.
YES! That is exactly what I think of! I thought the original comment was weird because of this. I am sorry to say that I may be a huge geek, but I am waaay not a gamer.
“One Winged Angel” from ff7 would like to talk to you.
as would all the people who like the pokemon theme songs.
as would all the people who like just about ANY show from a cartoon or a game.
problem?
Pandora is a web site that has basically a big database of songs and has them all categorized by their characteristics; so when you log on and tell the site what songs you like, it picks songs with similar characteristics.
Sometimes it means you get an obscure artist you find you like. Sometimes it means you get reminded of music you liked a while ago and have forgotten about. Sometimes you get an obscure artist who is obscure for a really, REALLY good reason. Like, say, not being able to carry a tune.
Pandora is like Russian roulette… only with more music and less death.
Less death? I got Hannah Montana on my ENYA station. My ears have never recovered…
I still like Pandora, really, but there are some times it’s just… ugh.
You think that’s bad, I got Enya on my Moody Blues station. At least both your artists are popular with females exclusively.
I got Britney Spears on a darkwave/gothic metal station.
There was another band where two of the five listed “similar artists” were “Battlelore” and “Hannah Montana”o_O. Figure that one out.
I have NEVER understood why Pandora is more popular than LastFM. Better database + unlimited skips? Yeah. I’ll take Last any day.
UR DOIN IT RONG!
Pandora works great for me, anyways.
Clearly you like horrible music. I guess someone needs to like crap.
Well I happen to like good graphs….so guess what?
I love box.
I love lamp.
Are you just naming things you see in the room?
I love lamp!
I LOVE THE WORLD…usually.
I LOVE YOU TOO !
LSAT formal logic has invaded graphjam.
Lame “graph”.
Actually that happens to me too. I start it playing good music and as time goes on Pandora plays things that get farther and farther from what I actually wanted to hear until I just have to delete the station and start over
You actually delete the station and then make it again? Just refresh Pandora if you have to, though that could actually be slower… Hm.
And Pandora normally works fine for me, though normally I have it on QuickMix, and things don’t start derailing on QuickMix for a while, and I don’t listen to stuff on Pandora for large periods of time.
Though once I did get a rap song on a metal band(can’t remember the band or genre) station, and Three Days Grace on a black metal station?
I’ve found that just cleaning out my “thumbs down” list of all but the absolute worst helps revive a station that’s been going downhill.
The longer the thumbs down list, the more cases there are where you banned a song because of Trait X and Trait Y, but it also has Trait Z which is something you actually like (though you may not even notice it’s present since X and Y annoy you so much). Eventually, it starts thinking you dislike traits Z, A, B, and C when they were just incidental to the songs you banned.
The above-mentioned Britney Spears incident happened when my thumbs-down list had gotten too long. I cleaned it out (but left her on it, just to be safe) and things improved dramatically.
I hate Pandora… it never sticks to the genre you ask it to. I’ve been using Grooveshark… you can make your own playlist!!
slacker.com works better.
+27
Depends on the Station. Al Jolson will play music close to it. Simon and Garfunkle will play music close to it. David Bowie depends (before you comment on my age, I’m 24)
Simon and Garfunkel pandora was awful. Sure Peter Paul and Mary and Glenn Campbell are other folk artists , but nobody likes both types of folk. The trick is usually to use reverse psychology. You have to find an artist which you like somewhat, that Pandora will in turn recommend good artists for.
It’s not easy to pull off, so good luck.
Wow… you fail. Pandora plays music that you like… so it’s your fault for typing Justin Bieber in the Pandora mix.
This.
No it doesn’t! Type something in and it says “we can’t play that so here’s this” and plays something so completely not like what you asked for that your mind goes :::::boggle::::: – SCREW Pandora.
Pandora actually works really great but it can take a LONG time for that to happen. You need to seed it with a LOT of stuff that you like – not just a few songs or artists. (For example: Creating a station like “Pearl Jam Radio” will return a bunch of crap you probably don’t like that much) Also, you really need to stay at it. I’ve had my account since 2005 and my station plays stuff I really like 99% of the time. I know that much time can seem like a big investment, but trust me, it is worth it to find the gems I otherwise wouldn’t have uncovered.
It works pretty great for me, and I have a large selection of rock/metal bands on my list. And I normally have certain bands on QuickMix at any given time because I want a certain mix of sounds, because occasionally I get in a REALLY heavy mood and just want to blast some death/black metal.
It’s only ever gone off it’s path twice for me, and it pulled up some rap song and Three Days Grace on some black metal station once.
(For example: Creating a station like “Pearl Jam Radio” will return a bunch of crap you probably don’t like that much)
–for example it might play Pearl Jam
This is no graph……..
THIS. IS. SPARTA!!!
fail. wrong movie…*ahem* this is a space station!
meh, i rather enjoy pandora. its prediction is much better than grooveshark(which is also great, cuz they stream 192kbps mp3 and you can actually select your songs) If you actually know what you want to listen to, instead of looking for something else, pandora is not for you.
I think that’s why I don’t like it. I’m too picky about music; I rarely like what Pandora thinks I “should.” I’d rather just listen to a selected playlist.
I used to use pandora but I found it had a limited playlist per genre. I’ve been using last.fm more and more often. But way back when Pandora started the graph should have indicated Pandora’s algorithm that used to say ‘I see you like SYMPHONIC METAL. You should listen to BLUEGRASS.’ Always with the bluegrass. That seems to have stopped in the last two years or so.
I love the reasoning button: your Symphonic Metal artist is similar to this bluegrass artist as they both have; guitars, vocals, and odd key signatures.
You know how there are five “similar artists” listed for each band?
I was highly amused (and bemused) when I came across one that listed both Battlelore (a metal band with a lot of growled vocals) and Hannah Montana as “similar artists”.
OH YES that’s SO true! Like, I’m listening to Linkin P
ark and up comes AFI and I’m like okay… lol thanks to pandora I’ve swiched favorite bands from LP to AFI but ill bet that’s rare!
Personally, I like Pandora because it plays things I like. Of course, I do listen to old country…
um… no. Pandora rocks my socks
If you like classic rock, I’ve actually had a lot of luck with my “Stairway to Heaven Radio”. Other than that, Pandora sucks big time in my opinion.
Last.fm >>>>> Pandora
In so many ways.
Or, “Here is music that has nothing to do with the music you were listening to to begin with.” >.<
I am in the uk and wondered how bad pandora could be so i tunneled to find out and decided to be thankful it wasnt available in the uk
My mother helped CREATE Pandora.
Pandora works fine. If you can’t get it to play the right music, you’re doing it wrong.