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It’s what is know as the Scooby-doo effect. Also there needs to be more use of the work meddling in that graph.
Do I assume you meant “the word meddling” as opposed to “the work meddling?”
I didn’t know they solved mysteries. They saved the day and solved conflicts, but there wasn’t much mystery solving that the adults were blind to. Well, maybe Dumbledore requested Harry’s assistance to a slightly suspicious level.
*snort* understatement of the century. I’m with the above comment on Scooby Doo effect, it’s the only way one can suffer through a plot like that.
Aww, leave it alone. It’s a kid’s book! If the kids DIDN’T solve everything and save the day, there wouldn’t be much point.
Mysteries solved by only the kids: Nicholas Flemel’s identity, the fact that the Sorceror’s Stone was gonna get stolen, location and how to open the Chamber of Secrets, the monster that was Petrifying people and why it hadn’t killed anyone, location of the Horcruxes, how to break into the Ministry, how to break into Gringotts. And probably a ton of others.
There’s multiple flaws with that post:
Nicholas Flemel wasn’t a mystery to anyone who cared EXCEPT for Harry, Hermione and Ron.
The Philosopher’s Stone was probably known that someone would make an attempt on it. I can swear there was a hint at that in a later book.
The Chamber of Secrets was impossible to find or open unless you were a Parseltongue.
Basilisks are insanely rare. It’s much easier to assume that it’s a wizard doing the damage.
No-one really KNEW about the Horcruxes to bother trying to FIND them.
No-one really needed to break into the Ministry before. The ones that did probably came to the same conclusion and successfully infiltrated it.
No-one ever broke into Gringotts and lived except Voldemort and now adults with the help of one of Gringotts’ own goblins.
*nerdgasm*
I’m just pointing out that, if they’re going to comment on something, at least get it right.
I personally think Dumbledore had a bit of a boner for Harry…
“Harry, come look at my new magic wand.”
Well, apparently he IS gay.
And of COURSE all gay people are pedophiles.
Point: You missed it so hard…
Solving mysteries? Crime fighting wizards when Harry and co are 12? Hmmm…seems to be like someone is trying to rip on Harry Potter and failing hard
graph fail
I guess some peoples’ suspended disbelief is highly selective – the graph maker can believe in wizardry but not that kids are smarter than adults? They’re kids’ stories, for Christ’s sake, of course the kids are going to be the heroes.
I agree. This graph applies to almost every mystery-ish story where the kids are protagonists.
Been happening for decades. Hardy Boys. Nancy Drew. The Happy Hollisters.
Exactly. Kids’ stories aren’t supposed to be taken seriously.
Uh, They were only “a bunch of 12 year olds” in one book… Most people do realize the characters get older as the books progress, right?
I think that’s the mystery that the maker of the graph meant. Chamber of Secrets and whatnot.
Actually – they weren’t even that. Hermione and Ron turned twelve during Book 1, and Harry didn’t turn twelve until Book 2, by the end of which Hermione and Ron were both thirteen.
So there never was “a bunch of twelve year olds” – two 12 and one 11, or two 13 and one 12 or two 14 and (you get the idea).
I suppose during the summer after the first year, up until Sept 19th, they were a bunch of 12 year olds, but I can’t remember them solving any mysteries during the holidays, or in the first 20 days of school……
(On a totally unrelated note, I write a lot of fanfiction, and knowing people’s ages is pretty important!)
god damn i feel sorry for you
Don’t be unkind to people who get their facts right. Poodle_face was just trying to clear things up and be accurate.
On another note, graph fail. If I am given five examples of adults as main characters/heroes solving mysteries in children’s books, I will find this graph funny.
I alwayes figured it was because the kids were further removed from the problems so they had a diffrent perspective that let them see things others were missing.
i don’t like it when graphs are 10% to 90% . not that they aren’t good, i just prefer when they have more than two.. what’s the word ? bars ?
…who use 3 spells.
It is because no-one suspects children, so adults will say things and do things that they would not do in front of other adults because of the assumption of differing intelligence, between adults and children. And
… nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition either.
I wonder if THEY knew where the parts of Voldemort’s soul were.
Behind the sofa. It’s where most things are
Or behind the dryer with all the missing socks
or stuffed and forgotten under the mattress. there’s always that too.
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I absolutely adore the HP series [coincidentally, I'm currently rereading the series and have #3 on my lap] and this is so true and hilarious =D
As the graph maker, I:
a) Love Harry Potter to the point of obsession
b) Am using generalisations. They aren’t 12 in all the books. DUH.
c) Am merely commenting on how amusing it is that the students always save the day. I’m not saying they can’t/should’t. Etc.
Cheers.
As another avid fan of Potter, think about it. All of the “mysteries” are solved by Harry, Ron and Hermione (and co in some books) not because the adults aren’t paying attention but because it’s meant to happen like that. Taking Chamber of Secrets as an example, Harry was the only one who COULD solve the mystery as he was the only one who could speak Parseltongue.
It’s an okay graph for Scooby-Doo (where it is a bit ridiculous that the gang knows EVERYTHING), but I don’t think it fits Harry Potter. Sorry.
My thoughts exactly. And the students don’t always save the day…
Yeah! Occasionally it’s Dobby!
Dobby is adorable!!!! He`s so awesome!
Personally, if I was a responsible teacher at the school, I would have escorted Harry to that bathroom, had him open the door, then march through with all the might and fury of the Hogwarts teaching staff, leaving “The Boy Who Lived” safely in his room!
It’s a kids’ book. Therefore, the kids need to save the day. That’s not a criticism, but it still makes an amusing observation.
Except no-one knew where the entrance was and even Harry was only guessing when he thought of Myrtle.
@ xenon
I almost thought this page was entirely humorless untill i saw your post xD
Have you read the fifth or seventh books? Dobby tells Harry where he can teach Defense Against the Dark Arts while hiding from Umbridge in book five and helps him escape from, well I won’t spoil it for you. *Slinks off to read more books.*
Room of Requirement, blah di blah di blah, etc. Dobby is legendary. Shame about his fate in Deathly Hallows, though.
Zwazwa
Sorry! I clicked in the wrong spot!
Thank you, I do try so hard.
I’m going to hope that was in response to Dobby rather than my nerd-rant. If it was to the nerd-rant, your post was sarcastic. Only I’m allowed to be sarcastic.
(Nerd)
For the record, I breathe Harry Potter. Of course I have read the books.
Have you never heard of generalisation?! Where would we be without it? A more accurate graph would have a multitude of bars. And of course Dobby would have his own bar. As would Dumbledore, and almost every secondary character. Probably Crookshanks too, now that I think about it.
It’s not accuracy. It’s graphjam.
It’s lame.
The problem with generalisation is that you still need something to have happened a lot. As I said above, not one major mystery (I think I’ll ignore Draco in HBP because Dumbledore knew about it all along) was “solved” by Harry etc without it being the only way that it could have happened due to other events pushing him towards that instance.
“As would Dumbledore, and almost every secondary character.”
*grins slowly* I just had a fanfiction idea about Filch saving the world from Voldemort.
Stupid adults/police failing to solve the crime/mystery while kids/civilians figure it out doesn’t bug me that much as a plot device. Its a little hackneyed, but whatever. Having your central characters be REALLY stupid to advance the plot (I’m looking at YOU HEROES) is much, much more annoying.
I like how the graph uses the color scheme from book 6… well the green is a little bit off but otherwise good.
Oh come on, we all know the stupid kids do it just because they want to be famous… >:-)
Hi,
I like this article but..
last night i went to the midnight premiere of harry potter and the half blood prince! I was honestly so disappointed! was it just me or did it seem very choppy and for some reason didn’t feel like it was a harry potter movie. Don’t get me wrong some of the parts in it were either really funny or somewhat scary but i really was not satisfied. I don’t know, what did you think?? Am i wrong? Give me your opinions..
Wait, what? Didn’t that come out months ago?
And I don’t think ANY of the films should be named “Harry Potter”. If they were original, then yes, they would be pretty damn good. However, in comparison to the books… Steven Kloves should just stop screwing everything up.
That’s so very true!!!! Why the stupid children??? I’ve always asked myself this question…
I think this is how it works:
Dumbledore solves mystery immediately, decides to let Harry do it on his own.
Staff realize that shit just got real, but trust Dumbledore blindly so don’t do anything without his o.k.
Harry figures shit out with his friends by the end of the year.
Conclusion: Dumbledore dangerously neglects the safety of his students, the sicko.