I assume that if someone says there’s nothing wrong, there’s nothing wrong. If you say there’s nothing wrong when there is something wrong, you have only yourself to blame when nothing is done about what is wrong.
Fortunately I don’t surround myself with people who I can’t be honest with. Since I’m blunt, people who can’t take that tend to disappear rather quickly.
Aha! It’s so true!
Kinda the same that the one below but.. Meh!
Girls, you have to understand that if you say : There’s nothing wrong
We are gonna think there is nothing wrong. So please, if there’s something wrong, JUST TELL US!!!
actually fellas, if she seems sad, won’t talk to you, except to say ‘there’s nothing wrong’, then that is a an absolute, you HAVE done something wrong… and you had better be on the hunt for flowers… no… JEWELRY!
Also guys, don’t buy jewelry for girls…It’s such a crap gift. It says “You’re a chick and jewelry is something chicks like, right?” Buy her something she’s mentioned wanting, or something you know she’s interested in but doesn’t have. Which may be jewelry. But don’t just make jewelry your default, it looks like you put 0 thought into it.
aaaaaaaaaaand that’s why you’ll still be living with your mom into your late 30′s.
There’s nothing wrong with showing a woman (or a man) that you appreciate them and listen to their wants and needs. It’s not like it has to be something spectacular. When my guy shows up at my apartment with a bag of ranch sunflower seeds for no real reason other than, “I was at the store and thought of you”, I know he loves me.
Of course you shouldn’t be with someone who says, “you better buy me something”, but under normal circumstances it’s just a gesture not an expectation.
Just because people buy each other things doesn’t mean they’re materialistic. A gift is simply a representation of showing someone you care about them. As long as those gifts actually are thoughtful, and not just a dozen roses you picked up because you’re a walking cliche.
This is exactly what I wish more women would realize. It’s more important to me that my husband show he care by helping out around the house and muting the TV when irritating commercials come on than by buying me useless jewelry and flowers that will just immediately become cat food.
yeah, but we’re not necessarily talking about jewelry and flowers- that doesn’t take any thought. I’m talking about giving something that is meaningful, even if it doesn’t cost that much. It may not be a necessity, but here’s nothing WRONG with it, as Nash is implying.
I don’t think women demand gifts – if a guy has done something wrong (or heck, nothing wrong) and shows up with gifts, it’s nice. That’s why it’s a gift. It’s not payment to be in a relationship with you… it’s a GIFT. And women buy men gifts, too.
I hardly ever get flowers, so while my flowers also become cat food, AND flowers die… it’s still a nice gesture. Sure, maybe he didn’t put a lot of thought into it, but he did SOMETHING which means he was at least trying to do something to make me smile.
Though really… I would rather get some gloves or a funky scarf or some colorful galoshes, or anything like that, that I want but can’t justify buying for myself on a whim. Those would make nice gifts.
You mention “helping out around the house” as a gift of sorts. That’s a requirement for living with me, that’s not a gift… that’s an “you pull your weight around here or I leave” deal for me. 50/50 of the household chores, whatever they are, do it and I will not murder you. It’s not “ohhh so sweet” it’s “GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND STOP BEING LIKE YOUR FATHER”
just because you don’t like gifts doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t. personally I love when my bf buys me stuff simply because I make just enough to pay my bills and he gets paid way more than I do so he has the money. seriously chill. everyone likes getting things, doesn’t make them materialistic.
Nash your spot on, what you’ve got to remember is that 99% of women now believe that life is EXACTLY like sex and the city and they are waiting for a knight in shining armour on a white horse to treat them like a queen
I never give anyone presents; if you want something buy it yourself. If that’s not sufficient for people, they can shove off. Presents are irrational, and only serve those who sell stuff, while people are getting stuff they don’t really want in exchange for giving someone else stuff that person didn’t really want.
I don’t celebrate any holidays either, as there’s nothing to celebrate. They are based on religions and traditions which have no importance to me. Holidays are pretty much just arbitrary.
The way he says things and his POV on things reminds me of some people I know in life… they are *always* the ones that are single, and bitter about it – but actively push people away and then wonder why they are single and cry into their beer at night.
And you know…? Hooray for him, if he knows what he wants and is going for it, good… but don’t whine if you can’t find what doesn’t exist. Like when women whine about wanting Prince Charming? Hey princess, he doesn’t exist, lower your standards! Same goes for men.
I only get flowers when my boyfriend has hurt my feelings. Don’t ever get in the habit of only buying a girl flowers after something rotten. Here I was at work, and everyone kept asking what’s the occasion, and there was this “I’m sorry” card attached. I immediately trashed that before my coworkers saw it. I was constantly reminded through the day that he had screwed up big time.
Well both me and my gf both come from very well off (espcially her) families. Her family would buy her whatever she wants so she values time, effort, and thought much more than physical gifts. Like if I come to see her I may spend my last dime just getting there but she is still happy just because I am there. At least when you are well off you realize like we have that there is not point to all the money if it doesn’t make you happy.
Took me 2 years to convince my ex that when I say “there’s nothing wrong”, there’s really nothing wrong.
you’re the exception to the rule. srsly.
I assume that if someone says there’s nothing wrong, there’s nothing wrong. If you say there’s nothing wrong when there is something wrong, you have only yourself to blame when nothing is done about what is wrong.
She’s going to end up killing you.
Fortunately I don’t surround myself with people who I can’t be honest with. Since I’m blunt, people who can’t take that tend to disappear rather quickly.
Hooray for Nash!
If you have to ask, you’re in even bigger trouble.
Aha! It’s so true!
Kinda the same that the one below but.. Meh!
Girls, you have to understand that if you say : There’s nothing wrong
We are gonna think there is nothing wrong. So please, if there’s something wrong, JUST TELL US!!!
actually fellas, if she seems sad, won’t talk to you, except to say ‘there’s nothing wrong’, then that is a an absolute, you HAVE done something wrong… and you had better be on the hunt for flowers… no… JEWELRY!
Or you can, you know, not bother with materialist idiots.
It’s not about what you buy; it’s about her realizing that you care, even if you don’t know what’s wrong.
Well if she says nothing but “there’s nothing wrong”, I’m going to go about my merry way and let her decide when to act like an adult.
what a fantastic way to describe that, its fantastic to act like a child by acting like an adult to get them back for saying “there’s nothing wrong”
Reverse the genders, and this is my relationship.
Also guys, don’t buy jewelry for girls…It’s such a crap gift. It says “You’re a chick and jewelry is something chicks like, right?” Buy her something she’s mentioned wanting, or something you know she’s interested in but doesn’t have. Which may be jewelry. But don’t just make jewelry your default, it looks like you put 0 thought into it.
Or buy nothing at all, people are generally capable of buying things for themselves if they want something.
aaaaaaaaaaand that’s why you’ll still be living with your mom into your late 30′s.
There’s nothing wrong with showing a woman (or a man) that you appreciate them and listen to their wants and needs. It’s not like it has to be something spectacular. When my guy shows up at my apartment with a bag of ranch sunflower seeds for no real reason other than, “I was at the store and thought of you”, I know he loves me.
Oh well, I can do fine without materialist people who expect me to buy me them things.
Of course you shouldn’t be with someone who says, “you better buy me something”, but under normal circumstances it’s just a gesture not an expectation.
Just because people buy each other things doesn’t mean they’re materialistic. A gift is simply a representation of showing someone you care about them. As long as those gifts actually are thoughtful, and not just a dozen roses you picked up because you’re a walking cliche.
But why do you need to buy people stuff to show you care? There are other ways, without unnecessary consumption.
This is exactly what I wish more women would realize. It’s more important to me that my husband show he care by helping out around the house and muting the TV when irritating commercials come on than by buying me useless jewelry and flowers that will just immediately become cat food.
yeah, but we’re not necessarily talking about jewelry and flowers- that doesn’t take any thought. I’m talking about giving something that is meaningful, even if it doesn’t cost that much. It may not be a necessity, but here’s nothing WRONG with it, as Nash is implying.
fyi, time and care are still gifts.
I don’t think women demand gifts – if a guy has done something wrong (or heck, nothing wrong) and shows up with gifts, it’s nice. That’s why it’s a gift. It’s not payment to be in a relationship with you… it’s a GIFT. And women buy men gifts, too.
I hardly ever get flowers, so while my flowers also become cat food, AND flowers die… it’s still a nice gesture. Sure, maybe he didn’t put a lot of thought into it, but he did SOMETHING which means he was at least trying to do something to make me smile.
Though really… I would rather get some gloves or a funky scarf or some colorful galoshes, or anything like that, that I want but can’t justify buying for myself on a whim. Those would make nice gifts.
You mention “helping out around the house” as a gift of sorts. That’s a requirement for living with me, that’s not a gift… that’s an “you pull your weight around here or I leave” deal for me. 50/50 of the household chores, whatever they are, do it and I will not murder you. It’s not “ohhh so sweet” it’s “GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND STOP BEING LIKE YOUR FATHER”
just because you don’t like gifts doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t. personally I love when my bf buys me stuff simply because I make just enough to pay my bills and he gets paid way more than I do so he has the money. seriously chill. everyone likes getting things, doesn’t make them materialistic.
Maybe, but it’s a slippery slope. Again I say, hooray for Nash!
Nash is just unemployed and bitter at not having been laid for a few years.
A person who calls themselves a succubus is the LAST PERSON ON EARTH who should say someone needs to get laid. You need to STOP getting laid.
A few years? Try never. Nothing to be bitter about. I feel sorry for people who need to have sex to feel good about themselves.
Another hooray for Nash!
Nash your spot on, what you’ve got to remember is that 99% of women now believe that life is EXACTLY like sex and the city and they are waiting for a knight in shining armour on a white horse to treat them like a queen
Holidays and birthdays with you must be a blast.
I never give anyone presents; if you want something buy it yourself. If that’s not sufficient for people, they can shove off. Presents are irrational, and only serve those who sell stuff, while people are getting stuff they don’t really want in exchange for giving someone else stuff that person didn’t really want.
I don’t celebrate any holidays either, as there’s nothing to celebrate. They are based on religions and traditions which have no importance to me. Holidays are pretty much just arbitrary.
I pity the fool who doesn’t already know what’s wrong and has to ask.
Who is letting the writers of “According to Jim” post graphs?
Fortunately, there’s nothing wrong with this graph. Really, honey, nothing’s wrong.
I think Nash is just a sad bitter person who hates life.
I enjoy my life, I just wouldn’t enjoy other people’s lives.
Completely disagree. I would bet my life savings Nash is waaaaaaay happier than most on this board!
Me too… but I have no life savings
The way he says things and his POV on things reminds me of some people I know in life… they are *always* the ones that are single, and bitter about it – but actively push people away and then wonder why they are single and cry into their beer at night.
And you know…? Hooray for him, if he knows what he wants and is going for it, good… but don’t whine if you can’t find what doesn’t exist. Like when women whine about wanting Prince Charming? Hey princess, he doesn’t exist, lower your standards! Same goes for men.
Hey! I’m Prince Charming. I’m just not Prince Handsome. But women want Prince Charming, not Prince Perfection. Logic wins.
“Nothing was wrong” in my last relationship… until she left me for her personal trainer. You can’t fix what’s not discussed!
That’s what she said.
I only get flowers when my boyfriend has hurt my feelings. Don’t ever get in the habit of only buying a girl flowers after something rotten. Here I was at work, and everyone kept asking what’s the occasion, and there was this “I’m sorry” card attached. I immediately trashed that before my coworkers saw it. I was constantly reminded through the day that he had screwed up big time.
Well both me and my gf both come from very well off (espcially her) families. Her family would buy her whatever she wants so she values time, effort, and thought much more than physical gifts. Like if I come to see her I may spend my last dime just getting there but she is still happy just because I am there. At least when you are well off you realize like we have that there is not point to all the money if it doesn’t make you happy.