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Consider that the Swine flu hasn’t only just started and there is no vaccines(soon), the fact that it’s already approaching the number of deaths in a flu that has a vaccines should be a concern.
Except that the graph’s scale has breaks, so its actually showing ~1800 for swine flu and ~36000 for normal flu.
And that is yearly for flue too.
There are SO many breaks in this graph it doesnt paint a really good picture
Yeah, I’m a tard. My point stands though. We have a bad flu coming to an vaccinated population as winter approaches. Not to be alarmist, just reminding people to take appropriate precautions.
The 1918 flu cam in the spring, went away, and then ckill millions in the winter.
The 1918 flu went wild in the late summer of 1918 (North America and Europe), not the winter.
The 1918 flu, like the swine flu, was an H1N1. Unlike “usual” flu, which kills the very young and very old, H1N1 causes cytokine storms (immune responses) that kill young adults, leaving orphaned kids to be raised by grieving grandparents.
This graph could look horribly different a few months from now.
H1N1 is mild compared to most other flue epidemics. The graph is wrong though, it hasn’t killed even 1,000 world wide yet and most likey will not. They are not recommending shots for the young or the elderly because they are not as likely to be effected. The young adults who are usely safe from fues are teh targets of H1N1.
If you are between 25 and forty, GET THE SHOT!!!!
NOW!
Learn how to spell flu properly or at least use the term influenza, rtard.
So far, .26% of infected people has died. Compared to seasonal flu, where 0.02% of the population dies.
The whole population is susceptible to swine flu, so if the current trend continues, a potential 15.410.000 people could die.
Thankfully, mortality for the whole population is closer to 0.16%, the current figure is inflated due to most deaths being by people weaker than average. Still. 0.16% of 6.7 billion people is still 10.720.000 people dead, with several times that number of people hospitalized and several dozen times that number not able to work.
Anyone care to calculate what it will cost if a half a billion people don’t turn up for work for two weeks?
Those figures are worldwide of course.
hey have you seen how we’re losing jobs so if that many people die maybe we can finally turn this recession into a huge come get your jobs now
You’re thinking like I’m thinking.
If I remember correctly, the Black Plague in Europe allowed the forming of the middle class due to the need for jobs.
I know, too many people look at the downsides of the Plague. (only being half sarcastic)
we NEED people to die. WE NEED IT.
I’d agree but so far, it’s mainly killed the young, the elderly and Mexicans….how many of them do you think have jobs???
Hahaahaha. I LOVE it.
of course they won’t all get the flu in the same 2 weeks, so the cost get’s spreaded out too
Plenty of flu to go around.
Your figures are alarmist, not everyone is going to get swine flu. In addition the current statistics are unreliable, take WHO figures all those that have died which is widely reported divided by those who have got swine flu which is a very unreliable figure most cases go unreported. and the WHO figure is only derived for reported figures.
Yeah the cost of that many people not showing to work again means unemployment will drop off the face of the Earth and I can get some overtime. Then I can use that money to put back into the system by purchasing goods and services. It’s called ECONOMICS 101.
I believe Australia has developed a Swine Flu vaccine and are about to start a vaccination program.
Swine flu vaccine comes out in November.
there’s vaccines for swine flu, and there has been outbreaks before (see Gerald Ford’s Presidency). It’s just that swine flu is a very mild disease.
There is no column for the H1N1 strand of swine flu, so the numbers are added up
And the point is not entirely about how many people die.
In my office alone 12 people have been off with swine flu in the past two months. And since we only have around 30 staff, that’s a pretty serious number of people to lose to sickness in such a short space of time.
Now imagine you run a business with only five or six staff, and you lose 4 of them to swine flu at the same time. How screwed would you be?
People can take precautions for normal flu. Flu jabs, medicine etc. Not so much for swine flu.
That’s why it is with the scary. Not because entire populations will die, but because of the short term side-effects.
This graph fails to show the original outbreak of H1N1 in 1918. Conservative estimates put the death toll at 50-100 million, but most put it much higher, higher than the Black Plague.
A: That was Swine Flu, Not H1N1, People call H1N1 “Swine Flu” still because part of it derives from it. People seem to think that it’s worse because it has fragments of regular flu, swine flu and bird flu when in actuality it’s much more mild combined than they would be seperately.
B: That was 1918, medicine wasn’t as good then as it is now and people didn’t know how to stay healthy as they do now. It’s not fair to compare them, that’s like saying we should still use blood-letting to cure everything and go to the barber shop to do it.
And about H1N1, consider the people who it has killed, usually older people, small children, people without access to health care (or even OTC medicines) or people in bad situations. So it’s really not accurate using comparisons like this
“usually older people, small children, people without access to health care (or even OTC medicines) or people in bad situations”
In other words, Americans.
Best comment of the day. LOL
By the same argument, then it is also unfair to compare current flu trends and to the Black Plague and wars.
And the flu of 1918 was a strain of H1N1.
Also, just like the flu of 1918, this current flu is starting to show signs that it is more lethal than regular flu when contracted by healthy young adults.
Incorrect. Many people born before 1957 have an immunity. There was a similar flu at the time.
Also the 1918 Flu killed more poeple between 20-40 then any other age group becasue it created a Cytokine storm.
http://www.cytokinestorm.com/
Swine flu actually has killed more people in their “child bearing” years that the regular flu rarely knocks out, which is what makes it more dangerous than the “yearly” flu because essentially it’s not killing one, but several people by targeting that age – the scientists also have found no reason why it is able to take out people who are supposed to be relatively hearty and so quickly.
It’s not killing the older people because they’ve been exposed to a similar virus. And with everyone so obsessed with sanitizing everything today, it’s no wonder our immune systems have trouble fighting anything off.
States were closing schools and such after what, one death? That’s not hysteria? And the kid was brought into Texas from Mexico!
Look at it this way: how does it look if you’re a superintendent and say, “Okay, five deaths and we close the school”?
I agree, swine flue is so blown out of proportion by the media. It’s not THAT bad.
…yet
It’s not that bad… period. Interested parties can look up the adjuvants in the vaccines that will be provided. Now THOSE are bad.
Honestly, the adjuvants scare me more than the flu.
Sloppy graph overall.
Indeed. Log scale FTW.
I tried it in log scale, it still sucks
Yeah, it’s pretty craptacular.
Agreed, the breaks on this graph are a FAIL.
I agree that the graph would have been more visually effective without the breaks. Nevermind that the stats aren’t 100% correct not that it’s comparing apples to oranges, figuratively.
I fail.
…Nevermind that the stats are not 100% correct, nor that the graph is comparing apples to oranges.
Well, guess what, the swine flu hasnt even begun yet! You can hardly compare death tolls before H1N1 is even considered as started its pandemic. Expect about a 0.6% death rate (as opposed to the regular flu with a 0.05% death rate, that is TEN TIMES LESS). It isn’t even the death rate that is the concern, it is the speed at which it spreads, and the age group it is targetting (young adults) that is what made it declared a pandemic. Please move this graph to failblog.org
The estimates with modern healthcare are less horrible, .16% for H1N1, but the death rate isn’t what will harm the world, as cruel as it sounds.
Like I said above, imagine what will happen if 20% of the population doesn’t turn at work, if 1% of the population will require hospital care. There are just under a million beds available in all hospitals in the US, just under .15%.
Now imagine those two factors combined, a hospital, operating at less than 80% of maximum capacity, already near capacity with regular patients, now has to deal with another 8 patients for each patient they already have.
Indeed. Fatality rates will no doubt increase as hospitals become more and more over-run too. Those who require medical assistance that don’t receive it will probably face a greater chance of dieing. Right now, every patient requiring medical attention can easily get it, and medical attention no doubt lowers likelihood of dieing.
Imagine what would happen in 20% of the work force didn’t show up? Ever go to work the day after Thanksgiving?:)
You’re blowing this way out of proportion. Relax! Don’t give into media paranoia.
Imagine the day after thanksgiving for 3 months.
Work force impact would be severe,a nd the people hit the ahrdest will be the people we need to deal with the sick community.
Also there are a lot of peopel that keep things moving in 24/7 businesses.
Losing 20% of the truck drivers alone would cause shortages of everything.
No, don’t panic but be wise.
Wisdom is hard. Panic is easy.
That’s one day. Now imagine it for a week. Or a month.
While I am all for not running around like a headless chicken, I think that just jamming your hands in your pockets and whistling is not the best solution either.
Here is what I do. 20% don’t show up to work for a month. I load my backpack, touhauler and dirtbike up and go enjoy what we like to call the most beautiful place on Earth. THE GREAT OLD USofA! You all can go back to work in your boxes and leave the fun stuff up to me. I do find it funny though that USA is leading the race in so called H1N1 deaths by a large number. Can everyone say SCARE TACTICS!!!!
Well, if it is as bad as you all say it is (which it isn’t), I say we put a strict quarantine on those who have it , keep them away from those who don’t, and we’ll be fine. But that will never happen, so get over yourselves.
You forgot the “Death Toll” in Left 4 Dead!
Yah, remake the graph with zombies!!!
I was thinking the exact same.
WWI & WWII – death tolls about 100 mill, mainly civilian.
Black Death – death toll around 70-80 mill
About 80 million people died in WW2 alone. Not to even factor in WW1.
Ever heard of logarithmic axis? At least show a break in the bar too
I didn’t know you have to pay tolls when you die. Interesting.
That’s how you get into heaven, by paying up.
Sure. It’s pretty low though–just a penny, or a single coin, depending on the route you take.
Tacky, it must be the colors.
Um…wasn’t this place supposed to be for FUNNY graphs? This is depressing as hell. Who the heck allowed this to go on? I doubt it was the voters…
These breaks are stupid.
You should add deaths caused by car accidents. Because all these people are freaked out that they’re going to die of swine flu, but still drive on roads and highways like maniacs with no disregard for their safety or the safety of others.
Maybe an “Infected with Swine Flu” bumper sticker would help scare off the tailgaters?
BWAHAHAH!!!! I WANT ONE!!!
Me two!
imma make myself one rrrrrrright away!!!!!!
This is one of the few completely accurate graphs that are actually funny. This graph didn’t even need exaggeration or any lack of seriousness.
It’s only accurate if you accept the incomplete as complete (since this is only the beginning of flu season in the northern hemisphere). It’s a bit like saying a presidential election is over when you’ve finished with the eastern seaboard.
This is just something that would make a better tabloid headline than graph: DEADLY VIRUS FAILS TO LIVE UP TO HYPE.
“I BREAK for Death”?
There’s a song title for you.
The scaling of this graph is so horrible…
Well this is a misleading graph if I was ever taught one.
He forgot communism-100,000,000++++
Then again, I don’t suppose it’s politically correct to bring THAT up…
Yes, I’m afraid everyone here is a communist, but you can still trust me, comra… uh, buddy.
Wow, that’s a failure… Misleading graphs are bad, you know?
The scaling of this graph (at first glance) indicates that the Swine Flue is VERY bad and dangerous. 1/4 of the deaths of the black plague? That’s a lot. The breaks are horrible.
I think that’s the point, because people are freaking out about H1N1 as though it was the plague. It’s not a failure, it does that intentionally.
And a lot of the deaths in WW1 were related to the flu pandemic as well…
the y axis shoud be linear or logarithmic…
Its so sad H1N1 is spreading so fast when the greatest defense against it is washing your hands…
WASH FASTER! WASH FASTER!
how accurate… I was never afraid of the swine flu, and never will be, I got it over 2 months ago and had no fear in it, and i didnt get the virus from carelessness either
I was never afraid of the measles, and never will be, I got it over 2 months ago and had no fear in it, and i didnt get the virus from carelessness either
Still apply? If so, try again with ebola. Most people get over that as well.
‘Most people get over that as well.’
Incorrect, Ebola Zaire has a 96% mortality rate, that’s not ‘most people’.
Measles is only seriously dangerous in children, and no, I’m not overly afraid of Swine Flu, least not to the extent of some of my staff who wanted to work from home until the epidemic had passed….
It troubles me to think that people might actually be using GraphJam as a source of information.
he forgot one thing, there should have been “ammount of deaths in the standard Metalocolypse episode” and had it relativley low, but enough to reflect the brutality of it. good graph over all though
Yes…this is the truth..swine flu doesn’t seem to be a serious health issue even compared to our normal flu season and yet the health ‘industry’ has us all peeing our pants waiting to buy their vaccine that will be useless if the virus mutates to a more deadly strain anyway.
BTW it’s ‘flu not flue. A flue is a type of chimney to vent hot gas.
More people have died from falling from roofs trying to clean chimneys than have died form Swine Flu.
Way to make a confusing graph. Perhaps use a logarithmic scale next time, just to make it really clear to the internet hordes.
this reminds me of a graph in jon stewart’s America: the book, showing the increase in misleading graphs… 137 mil about the same height as 70 mil? lol
You are all pussies
I fail to see the joke in this graph :\ is it just that its really badly made and has needless breaks?
The swine flu scare, brought to you by the people that brought you the Y2K scare.
I got a swine flu vaccine back in 1976, am I still protected. Yeah, they scared us with this one before.
There are always Chicken Littles out there, and they are right about .00000001% of the time( I rounded up), so I always ignore them. It’s unlikely that I’ll live long enough for one of them to be right
It’s the primary stage of the f*ing disease. It CAN (but doesn’t have to) become much more deadly that regular flu. Regular flu is present throughout the population of the world – you get infected multiple times a year, swine flu is contained to only a small part of the world’s population, and still manages to make up 10% of flu deaths. (1800 in half a year, vs. 36000 in one year).
So even now, it’s deadlier than regular flu, just less well spread.
And as I said before, it’s the first stage. Diseases mutate constantly. And it can (but doesn’t have to) happen that swine flu suddenly starts to spread quicker and/or that the deadlyness increases. If so, you’ll see the number of swine flu deaths run past the flu deaths in no time.
On top of that, this graph makes no sense. The swine flu has been around for less than half a year, while the other ones have been around for much longer, or have actually finished.
The world wars and the black death are done. (actually, the black death still happens, but that’s almost discountable). You can’t compare current disasters with past disasters and say “we should care more about those, and less about this disaster”.
If the swine flu strikes, we’re going to have caualties to make up for the regular flu for a century. So it’s worth covering the risks.
I hate people who act like the swine flu is nothing. (and those who act like it’s the end of the world).
Yeah, but you know for sure that, if swine flu doesn’t become a huge thing, there will be so many people whining at all the “wasted effort” fighting it.
Do a logarithmic scale. This “break” bs looks really stupid.
Too lazy to see if anyone else pointed this out, but also consider the 1918 Spanish flu that killed between 50-100 million people in a two year span (according to Wikipedia so taken with a grain of salt). Now THAT was a pandemic. Swine flu is simply not that bad of a flu even if no one takes any vaccine at all. Most people recover just fine using over the counter Tylenol and making sure to keep their fluid intake up. At-risk people should seek medical treatment, but seriously the rest of us should not live in fear of this admittedly virulent but honestly relatively mild flu strain. But I will admit there is value in watching how the flu moves through the world population so we can have an idea how a REAL dangerous flu might spread.
Just out of curiosity, when Spanish Flu had only killed five or ten people, even when it had only killed 100, 200 people, how many would have been saying what you are saying now? “Yeah – this spanish flu is annoying, but you should’ve seen the black death. Now that was a really dangerous disease!”
Maybe it will turn out to be mild and people will look back and say “All that panic” and laugh.
But wouldn’t it be better to ensure we take it seriously now, even if turns out that we don’t need to, than not take it seriously, only to find out that it will, in fact, kill us all?
(Note – this should not be taken as a statement that it will kill us all. I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on tv. I do sometimes play one with my girlfriend, but that’s a whole other issue, and not really the point of this comment).
You do realize both Spanish flu and swine flu are
strains of h1n1, right?
Read up a bit more about viral mutation and recombination before making oblivious generalizations.
You do realize H1N1 IS swine flu, right? Read up yadda yadda you fail.
People don’t seem to be getting the point that it’s SUPPOSED to be misleading. It’s SUPPOSED to make Swine Flu look bad at first glance, because most people in the world are acting like they took a quick glance at this graph and didn’t notice the breaks, they’re freaking out like it’s as bad as the black plague!
biased a bit..?
basically and simply put, swine flu is nothing but a fluke, ya its there, but it is virtually harmless. 1800 in over 20 years, please!