Note that, contrary to common belief, the alphabet used in Germany is the same used in English-speaking countries, and it therefore has 26 letters. The umlauts ä, ö and ü are merely modified versions of a, o and u and are not considered individual letters. The ß is actually a merged sz.
actually, it’s an s-set, which makes it a merged version of “ss”. You can know this by checking out how a word can be spelled with either the s-set or a double s.
In modern German this is certainly correct. However, historically the ß developed from the combination sz, which often merged and looked like a single letter in the Fraktur typeface which was commonly used in ye olde Germany.
In former times (until 2008 or so) it was both possible in capital letters (or when you didn’t have a ß on your keyboard): SZ and SS as well. Now some genius thought of inventing a capital ß (that didn’t exist before because there is no word beginning with ß) and it it is damn ugly … and scheiße.
That’s not true, actually, but this is a common misconception. Old German had two differently written “s” characters. One was only used for the end of words while the other (looking sort of like an f) was used in the middle of words. If you combined the two (i.e. “ss”), it looked like “fs” -> ß.
maybe the reason it’s called s-set, is because it contains both “s” and “zet” => “z”
no offence means, and not trying to look smart, just saying what i hear, i really mean maybe thruthfully, not sarcastic
1. Cross your arms in front of you with your right forearm over your left forearm – that is, parallel, so that your right hand is above your left elbow and your left hand is below your right elbow.
2. Extend the pinkie and index finger of your right hand while keeping the other fingers curled up.
3. Repeatedly extend/contract all of the fingers of your left hand (the ones below the right elbow) in a sort-of flicking motion, as though you’re dumping something.
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Congratulations, you now know how to say BS in sign language.
I only do SEE, sorry – and it’s just too fun of a sign not to share. Just kidding – I just really like that sign – what I know (which isn’t much) I learned from an HH coworker about 19 years ago, but he got laid off not long after that and I haven’t had anyone to practice with. I do remember his correcting me when I was trying to make the sign for “very” and got the bottom of my palms too close…
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It was nice to be able to twist one’s index finger against one’s nose in some meetings and have someone else in the meeting know what it meant, I must admit.
Bend your index finger down until it touches your thumb (F handshape), keeping your other three fingers uncurled. Position your hand so the palm is facing the floor at about the same height as your belllybutton. Now flip your hand so your palm is facing the ceiling, while simultaneously thrusting your arm forward about three inches.
Now you also know how to say @$$hole in sign language. =)
Especially phone numbers on German TV at 11:00 pm.
Oct-sex-seben-fumf-drei-null-noin.
Only elebenty euros a minute!
(NB- Don’t try that number. Jenny doesn’t live there anymore.)
As i traveled a bit and am french, i can tell the first words girls learn in French is quite often “Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ?”, thanks to the song.
Do they always know what does it mean ?
Actually of course, “Where is the bathroom?” and “One beer if you please!” Or of course in countries where wine is more prevalent, “One whiskey if you please!” because beer in countries that love wine is NEVER good beer.
Hm… don’t know where you guys learn languages, but my school didn’t allow swearing… which didn’t mean we didn’t do it ^^ most of us memorised the Merovingian from the Matrix swearing…..
I don’t think the maker of the graph meant the sort of foreign language learning you do in school On a side note, my French teacher taught us all the common swear words on the first day of school, just to get it over and done with, and because she knew we’d never stop asking otherwise anyway
The only things I remembered in High School Spanish; “Donde esta Bano?” Where is the bathroom. And “Yo Quiero hamburgesa y con queso, y tambien bebeo cerveza.” I want a cheezburger and beer. I Get to college in Georgia, and try to take Spanish 101, and teacher refuses me, saying I needed to take Spanish 201 because I had it in High School and was from Miami. Go figure.
That’s because you live in Quebec: “ostie” and “tabernacle” are Quebec-only swear words: they are never used in Europe in French-speaking countries… Quebec swear words are pretty much all religion-oriented.
I took Japanese for 3 years in high school and am just about finished with my second year in college, and I have yet to learn any swear words beyond baka (idiot), which isn’t really a swear word. I haven’t learned lets get drunk either. Though, I supposed, I could say let’s drink/go drinking, but I didn’t learn the o form of verbs (how says let’s ~ casually) until the beginning of my 2nd year in college.
Granted, I also learned basically nothing in high school Japanese.
This graph is really only for people who learn the language from peers who natively know the language, not when you’re actually learning the language from any kind of course Generally, anyway.
i picked up some Japanese from watching Anime with subtitles. but i only know a few words, tuskini kawatte oshioki yo (thank you sailor moon for getting that stuck in my head). i speak it better than i spell them romanised but i can say, hello, thank you etc
No offense, but I really doubt you actually learned anything from watching anime with subtitles. Anything useful, anyway. When are you ever going to need to say in the name of the moon, I’ll punish you? Also, Japanese is rife with weird things like ingoup and out group expressions, which you can’t really pick up from anime.
The first words I learned in Italian when I went to Rome were to ask for a strawberry ice cream. Glacie fragola, I think it was… Oh, and Nocciola y stracciatella (hazelnut and choc chip; two different flavours that go well together)
Don’t forget “where’s the bathroom?”
The first words i learned were always: Hello, my name is ….
Bonjour, je m’appelle …
Hallo, ich heiße ….
et cetera
first thing in japanese I learned was idiot…..
Me too! XD
Then again, Japanese doesn’t really have curse words.
Cept for ‘KUSO!!’ and even that means ‘CURSES!!’
hurray! i’m guessing you know the song triple baka? :3
I do. It translates to triple stupid! O.O
Scheiße.
Note that, contrary to common belief, the alphabet used in Germany is the same used in English-speaking countries, and it therefore has 26 letters. The umlauts ä, ö and ü are merely modified versions of a, o and u and are not considered individual letters. The ß is actually a merged sz.
actually, it’s an s-set, which makes it a merged version of “ss”. You can know this by checking out how a word can be spelled with either the s-set or a double s.
In modern German this is certainly correct. However, historically the ß developed from the combination sz, which often merged and looked like a single letter in the Fraktur typeface which was commonly used in ye olde Germany.
In former times (until 2008 or so) it was both possible in capital letters (or when you didn’t have a ß on your keyboard): SZ and SS as well. Now some genius thought of inventing a capital ß (that didn’t exist before because there is no word beginning with ß) and it it is damn ugly … and scheiße.
That’s not true, actually, but this is a common misconception. Old German had two differently written “s” characters. One was only used for the end of words while the other (looking sort of like an f) was used in the middle of words. If you combined the two (i.e. “ss”), it looked like “fs” -> ß.
That crazy middle-of-the-word “S” screws me up so bad when I’m reading old text… I swear, whoever invented it must have done so just to be mean.
This also depends on the font you use. Sometimes the ß looks like a ligature of “long s” (ſ) and “z”: ſz => ß
For example the street signs in Berlin use a font like that: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Berliner_Strassenschilder.jpg&filetimestamp=20050526225735
maybe the reason it’s called s-set, is because it contains both “s” and “zet” => “z”
no offence means, and not trying to look smart, just saying what i hear, i really mean maybe thruthfully, not sarcastic
They ARE considered individual letters.
Ce graphique est la merde.
aller vis-vous.
I don’t know, the graph looks alright to me… Though only a french I student, i could only get this out of it:
This graph is crap.
Then I think you said ‘get out’ or something to that effect.
As a frenchman, I could say you are right for the first sentence. And the second one is absolute non-sense.
1. Cross your arms in front of you with your right forearm over your left forearm – that is, parallel, so that your right hand is above your left elbow and your left hand is below your right elbow.
2. Extend the pinkie and index finger of your right hand while keeping the other fingers curled up.
3. Repeatedly extend/contract all of the fingers of your left hand (the ones below the right elbow) in a sort-of flicking motion, as though you’re dumping something.
.
Congratulations, you now know how to say BS in sign language.
Much easier to just spell it in finger-alphabet. Or use the one-finger salute.
I only do SEE, sorry – and it’s just too fun of a sign not to share. Just kidding – I just really like that sign – what I know (which isn’t much) I learned from an HH coworker about 19 years ago, but he got laid off not long after that and I haven’t had anyone to practice with. I do remember his correcting me when I was trying to make the sign for “very” and got the bottom of my palms too close…
.
It was nice to be able to twist one’s index finger against one’s nose in some meetings and have someone else in the meeting know what it meant, I must admit.
They are boring, i know XD
Bend your index finger down until it touches your thumb (F handshape), keeping your other three fingers uncurled. Position your hand so the palm is facing the floor at about the same height as your belllybutton. Now flip your hand so your palm is facing the ceiling, while simultaneously thrusting your arm forward about three inches.
Now you also know how to say @$$hole in sign language. =)
Numbers.
Especially phone numbers on German TV at 11:00 pm.
Oct-sex-seben-fumf-drei-null-noin.
Only elebenty euros a minute!
(NB- Don’t try that number. Jenny doesn’t live there anymore.)
(You have to imagine the numbers spoken in a sexy, throaty Heidi Klum-type of voice.)
I prefer the Clark W. Griswold voice. “My family and I are looking for sechs.”
Oh yeah, true.
Once when I was on a ski group, I taught my fellow German skiers swear words in greek. Like “malakas = asshole” etc.
As i traveled a bit and am french, i can tell the first words girls learn in French is quite often “Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ?”, thanks to the song.
Do they always know what does it mean ?
I’ve never heard the song, but i can tell that roughly means “Do you wanna get in bed with me?”
“Get in bed” is a mild translation, haha. “Coucher” quite bluntly means “to have sex”
Well, in this context, anyway.
Well i knew the chambre a couche is bedroom, so…
plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose
Actually of course, “Where is the bathroom?” and “One beer if you please!” Or of course in countries where wine is more prevalent, “One whiskey if you please!” because beer in countries that love wine is NEVER good beer.
One of the first full French sentences I learned was “Pouvez-vous parler plus lentement?”
It proved very useful, haha.
Könten Sie bitte ein bisschen langsamer sprechen?
Nu i nachui blet
That is SOO true. Even before I started learning russian I knew the cursewords
Hm… don’t know where you guys learn languages, but my school didn’t allow swearing… which didn’t mean we didn’t do it ^^ most of us memorised the Merovingian from the Matrix swearing…..
I don’t think the maker of the graph meant the sort of foreign language learning you do in school
On a side note, my French teacher taught us all the common swear words on the first day of school, just to get it over and done with, and because she knew we’d never stop asking otherwise anyway
The finnish course: Perkele, vittu, saatana, jumalauta.
The only problem is now to pronounce them. ;O)
The only things I remembered in High School Spanish; “Donde esta Bano?” Where is the bathroom. And “Yo Quiero hamburgesa y con queso, y tambien bebeo cerveza.” I want a cheezburger and beer. I Get to college in Georgia, and try to take Spanish 101, and teacher refuses me, saying I needed to take Spanish 201 because I had it in High School and was from Miami. Go figure.
That’s because you live in Quebec: “ostie” and “tabernacle” are Quebec-only swear words: they are never used in Europe in French-speaking countries… Quebec swear words are pretty much all religion-oriented.
Bonjour, comment-allez vous? Je nas parlez pas francais, mais… merde, putain, con, cul, tu me casses les couilles!
I took Japanese for 3 years in high school and am just about finished with my second year in college, and I have yet to learn any swear words beyond baka (idiot), which isn’t really a swear word. I haven’t learned lets get drunk either. Though, I supposed, I could say let’s drink/go drinking, but I didn’t learn the o form of verbs (how says let’s ~ casually) until the beginning of my 2nd year in college.
Granted, I also learned basically nothing in high school Japanese.
Oops, should be suppose, not supposed.
This graph is really only for people who learn the language from peers who natively know the language, not when you’re actually learning the language from any kind of course Generally, anyway.
Chikusho means damn/dammit, I think. ;P
i picked up some Japanese from watching Anime with subtitles. but i only know a few words, tuskini kawatte oshioki yo (thank you sailor moon for getting that stuck in my head). i speak it better than i spell them romanised but i can say, hello, thank you etc
No offense, but I really doubt you actually learned anything from watching anime with subtitles. Anything useful, anyway. When are you ever going to need to say in the name of the moon, I’ll punish you? Also, Japanese is rife with weird things like ingoup and out group expressions, which you can’t really pick up from anime.
I think you forgot “It undoes like this”
that graph is definitely true especally with english and russian …. but not with latin
…. btw search “every cuss word” on youtube… have fun!! X-D
Actualy I think the percentage is more. At the moment I can curse at more than 10 languages, most of them I can’t speak
The first words I learned in Italian when I went to Rome were to ask for a strawberry ice cream. Glacie fragola, I think it was… Oh, and Nocciola y stracciatella (hazelnut and choc chip; two different flavours that go well together)
Learning languages – you’re doing it wrong…
I remember looking for ‘Arsch’ and ‘Loch’ in the dictionary to build the word ‘asshole’. I was 5 years old.
“Du bist eine Scheißtüte”?
sometimes the only thing you learn…
yes, those are the first words, that Americans learn. if the are inteligent enough and want to learn.
And so this is supposed to make me american? Or being stupid is enough ti fit in your criteria?
‘Salve!’ Hello!
‘Ecce! In pictura est peulla Romana.’ Look! In the picture is a Roman Girl.
First things I can remember learning in Latin. (Then, again I only took one year of it.)
i know sh*t in chinese!!
all i learn is i dont know your language