Comments on: Clothing of Complainers

By: Ben

Ben — Tue, 08 May 2012 22:02:16 +0000

did you watch the video?
Because the chart regards the video

By: Mixed Nuts

Mixed Nuts — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:58:39 +0000

Whoever made this graph fails to realize that Asia is pretty much the only place our clothes come from anymore. American made clothes are so difficult to find it’s at the point of “ridiculously close to impossible”. I’d love to have American-made clothes. Even just European-made clothes would be hundreds of times better.

By: Lex

Lex — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:49:04 +0000

Actually, in 1965, 95% of all clothing was manufactured entirely in the US. Today only 5% is. Those stats prove it is something we are capable of, its just that government stopped putting regulations on companies, and the less regulations, the more the guy at the head of the table will try and maximise profits any way he can (outsourcing). But as of 1965, it used to be that you couldn’t even run a successful company if you weren’t union. People were able to make quality clothing, that sold and generated profit, and at the same time were able to pay their workers liveable wages w/benefits… who knew!?

By: jordybordy

jordybordy — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:11:58 +0000

it’s big just for fun. the sizes aren’t relevant to actual amount of people, it just looks funny.

By: jordybordy

jordybordy — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:08:58 +0000

lol what? just an observation internet hot shot.

By: Jim

Jim — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:05:30 +0000

I dont try and find all my clothing Made In USA , but then I live in Australia.

By: Niho

Niho — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:25:44 +0000

Not to mention most of the American Made clothes are ridiculously expensive, and the stuff that’s not expensive doesn’t last more than 3 washes.

By: Andrea

Andrea — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:06:17 +0000

*is

By: herb

herb — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:29:54 +0000

Cotton grew wonderfully in the Southern climate; hemp grows well damn near everywhere. The problem with growing our own fiber is that agribusiness farms are focused on monoculture farming (which is an ecological nightmare unto itself). It’s not that we *can’t* create US-only clothing products, but that we *won’t*

By: PoostHoc

PoostHoc — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:29:08 +0000

Yes, well, synthetics can only be grown on the moon by martians.

By: Andrea

Andrea — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 04:25:31 +0000

As if you can’t tell from context. Also, I don’t think it’s necessary to label the intersection.
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Granted, the drawback with Venn diagrams on here it that it’s a bit of a lulzkiller to note the contents of every set.

By: Andrea

Andrea — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 04:17:26 +0000

Indicative? … Imperative?

By: Andrea

Andrea — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 04:14:28 +0000

Dude what? You haven’t explained how it’s inaccurate — i.e. how the intersection of the two groups is not large. You’ve just relayed a definition of outsourcing. No matter how correct that definition is, everyone will know what was meant.
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This is a funny diagram. I lol’d.

By: Schooly

Schooly — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:39:24 +0000

Uh, Venn diagrams are supposed to have the middle part labeled with what the other two parts have in common. So what do they have in common?

By: no itall

no itall — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:42:05 +0000

I prefer the clothes from Latin American sweatshops.

By: LUKZ

LUKZ — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:24:55 +0000

Um, dude, everyone wears something that’s made in China.

By: Your Face

Your Face — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:01:23 +0000

You really think it’s possible for EVERYTHING you own to be made in America? Does that mean no one had the right to complain about outsourcing?

By: Two Sides

Two Sides — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:00:07 +0000

Yeah clothes that are pure american hardly exists anymore.

By: Matt

Matt — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:03:00 +0000

Wrong climate? Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t a sizeable chunk of the US building its economy on King Cotton before we attempted to secede, lost a war over it, finished wrecking the regional economy and retooled our infrastructure for country music and meth production?

I’m not saying there aren’t some massive obstacles to a wholly domestic textiles industry, but I don’t think the climate is anywhere near the biggest.

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:50:15 +0000

Sweatshops are not indicative to make clothing.

Fact is, buying American made products helps pay American wages of American families who pay American taxes and who buy your products and/or services, which helps put MORE money into YOUR pocket.

If you like paying higher taxes and having less money, by all means, buy foreign made products.

But, if you enjoy having lower taxes, better schools, better health care, better roads and utilities, etc. AND having more money in your pocket, buy American made when and wherever you can.

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:39:51 +0000

I’m always on the look-out for American made products!

By: Fake E. Tufte

Fake E. Tufte — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:37:38 +0000

It’s outsourcing because you have a domestic company hiring a foreign company to produce the goods. And if you don’t think it costs jobs, it’s only because you’re only taking today as your slice of time. You wouldn’t be able to say what you said to the faces of the thousands of American textile workers who were left jobless as plant after plant closed down not that many years ago, when American clothing companies began to outsource textile production. Regions of the eastern US that used to be textile powerhouses were devastated.

I’m not saying we would be able to take back textile production. That would mean that we, the consumers, would be willing to pay more for clothes in order to pay American wages to have them made here. And we’re not. Which means another graph could be outsource complainers vs. people who only shop for the lowest price.

By: anaceofkidneys

anaceofkidneys — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:56:53 +0000

It’s not where your clothes are made, it’s whether or not you buy them new. Shopping resale (especially at local shops, not Goodwill) takes money out of the sweatshop operators’ pockets and puts it into the local economy. Bonus: older, pre-outsourcing goods are better made and will last you longer.

By: Homer

Homer — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:40:16 +0000

Hey, why not put OUR kids to work in good old American sweat shops instead of those foreign kids? It worked in the early 1900′s, and look how our economy grew in that century.

By: Naoyusimi

Naoyusimi — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:01:05 +0000

Nice video…. tell me how the “complainer” is supposed to buy the product without the job he just lost….chicken or egg, anyone? We buy cheap products perhaps because the relative adjusted wages in this country have been going DOWN in comparison to the product prices. In the mid-70s, when we last had a LARGE middle-class, was about time we started hemorrhaging jobs. Income went stagnant, the middle-class shrunk, homeownership diminished (until the recent subprime debacle), yet prices still went up. Executive pay and bonuses are 500x the average worker’s pay (and that’s in THIS country), yet they just can’t possibly make a profitable product IN the United States. Oh, really?

By: fivekitten

fivekitten — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:40:18 +0000

As a girlfriend of a complainer that has difficulty finding clothes made in the US, I find the graph lightheartedly amusing. (Didn’t watch the video. Daughter sleeping.)

By: Casey

Casey — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:30:20 +0000

Replying to V Gard as an idiot, not RS.

By: RS

RS — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:51:56 +0000

How does the graph demonstrate that its maker is complaining about clothes being made in Asia? It seems more to me that (s)he is commenting on the hypocrisy of people who do complain about it. So in all likelyhood, you just flamed jordybordy for having the same opinion as you. Good job.

By: RS

RS — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:48:44 +0000

Actually it’s graph construction fail, but if we take it to mean what jordybordy seems to want it to mean, then Chal is right.

By: RS

RS — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:47:32 +0000

Very good point, but the bigger issue is that all the graph implies is that some (undescribed portion of) people who wear Asian-made clothes complain about outsourcing.

For (I wish it were) the last time — Venn diagram overlap size does not imply relative quantity!!!

By: Big Elly

Big Elly — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:45:42 +0000

Graph Comprehension – FAIL

By: RS

RS — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:43:44 +0000

Or impose labor conditions on incoming goods.

By: Rogue Medic

Rogue Medic — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:38:10 +0000

We don’t have the right climate to grow synthetic fabrics?

By: RJ

RJ — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:28:54 +0000

Gandhi did it in India. We can do it here! Of course, he was just making that one piece of cloth. I will call my own fail.

By: Chal

Chal — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:19:54 +0000

Doesn’t this graph also imply that almost everyone who is wearing clothes made in Asia complains about jobs being outsourced?

By: V Gard

V Gard — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:16:42 +0000

Outsourced jobs is unfortnate but thats capitalism for you. The only real way to fix it is to remove them minimum wage which will never happen.

By: Sir VG

Sir VG — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:10:33 +0000

I would like to see the creator of this graph get everything in their life from the USA. That means the source material, labor, etc. Think you can get it 100% USA? Fat chance. We don’t have the capabilities. We may have the potential labor source, but we don’t have the raw materials, mostly because of climate.

What we need to do is figure out something that the USA can do better then anybody else and exploit it. And about the only thing you see that we can do better is uh…whining. Sadly. We could say ponzi schemes, but I think Nigeria is even better then Madoff at that even.

So yeah, you got any better ideas? Cause I’m out of them.

By: Marco Polo

Marco Polo — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:53:48 +0000

This is a lame and inaccurate graph. Outsourcing means to obtain goods or services from an outside supplier, one which may or may not be located in Asia. As exampled in the video, many call centers jobs have lately been outsourced to India because the wages are lower and the employees speak English. This, as we all know if we’ve ever dealt with it, can be a very frustrating and annoying experience.
The garment industry, however, is different. Textiles and clothing have been milled, sewn, and packaged in Asia for a VERY long time. It’s nothing new and does not represent a loss of American jobs.
A more meaningful graph would be one that juxtaposes people who complain about child labor and human rights violations while still wearing any article of clothing purchased at the Gap, Old Navy, Banana Rep., Target, etc.

By: John326

John326 — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:32:48 +0000

Unless those of us who believe in fair trade and would like to purchase only clothing made in the US plant a cotton crop, buy a spinning wheel, loom and sewing machine there is no way to obtain clothing that is 100% US origin.

By: Firefalcon

Firefalcon — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:32:43 +0000

Is it even possible to go to a normal store and find american made clothes? That sounds like going to toy stores to find things not made in china.

By: Alysha.DeShae

Alysha.DeShae — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:14:20 +0000

Well, most complainers usually aren’t all that passionate about “the cause,” they typically just like to complain. And unless you go out of your way to find clothes and other items that are made solely in the US, you are going to own clothes made in other countries.

By: Your mom

Your mom — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:10:49 +0000

…I don’t geddit D: