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I was going to leave a comment earlier, but my system crashed upon viewing this graph.
LOL! WIN.
And yet you still managed to get first. Impressive.
WIN
Because all the other people who saw it before him were running windows…
his machine has virii. if you wipe it. the errors will go away.
This is because Windows is a virus. Delete it and install Linux and your computer will run so much better.
Shame about the games, though…
Games are for PS3s. Not computers. GO *NIX!
How do you install Linux on ur computer?? For that matter, do do u delete windows….
I’m very computer illiterate.
Umm, maybe because it sucks, but for most people there is no viable alternative? But I guess a pie chart with 100% one color would be kinda stupid…
There are very viable alternatives, people just don’t know them. Infact for an everyday user who simply uses a word processor, spread sheets, and checks their e-mail everday while surfing the web they can simply switch to Linux. It’s free, and it does all things an average user does. It’s becoming more and more intuitive to use and there are places starting to sell boxes with Linux on them all set up with google apps.
I use Linux on a daily basis, and I work as an IT consultant, while I agree completely with what you say, I can tell you that while I love Linux, it is not yet a viable alternative for most people for a few reasons. First, the business world is still a heavily entrenched Windows domain, and people want to use the same OS at home as they use at work, rather than having to learn two. There is still spotty driver support at best. The uproar over Vista’s driver issues has been bad enough. Linux is much more complicated for many hardware devices (much of the blame here falls on hardware vendors). That needs to change before it gets wide-spread adoption. Finally, fear. People fear change and learning new things. So outside of the techies and the more adventurous people, they see it as no alternative. Trust me, I wish there were better alternatives, or something to force MS to put out a decent OS.
Spotty driver support?
… Depends on your system..
That said – I have a completely custom built system that is 5 years old now. I had a few problems with the video card drivers with earlier versions of Ubuntu, but they went away in the last couple of upgrades.
Now I use Linux Mint, which is a derivative of Ubuntu – and I haven’t ran into a single issue.
.
Just one person’s experience, but I really feel sorry for WindoZe users who think that Linux is some far-out geeky hard to use… thing.
“Spotty driver support?
… Depends on your system..”
That was EXACTLY my point. Like I said, I love Linux, but its not for everyone yet.
Been curious about Linux,
However I’m not quite ready for the changes an OS shift will bring…
I need a hug…
*hugs*
And I agree. Plus all my stuff is on windows, what happens to it when I install windows?
And I feel sorry for losers who have to make them feel better about themselves by using retarded words like ‘windoze’!
Yeah, but on the whole, Linux updates much more often that MS OSes. Ubuntu is really good at putting out regular major releases. Especially considering MS averages 1 SP every 1.8 years or so.
As you mentioned though, especially for gamers, there really is no other alternative.
Depends on how much you game and what you play. I’m very satisfied with the World of Warcraft, and that runs wonderfully on my mac laptop. I can’t experiment as much as I like with other games, sure, but I’m a Blizzard fangirl and it doesn’t matter to me.
World of Warcraft actually performs better on Linux and FreeBSD under Wine than it does on MS Windows.
They have decent OS’s. They’re called NT, 2000, XP, and the entire Server line.
XP decent??? hahaha, XP is where things really started to go to crap, and its only gotten
worse. NT, and 2000 were both decent, but nothing that MS has put out has been anything
more than decent, they’ve all been bloated, slow, and a pain to use.
Gee, funny how I’ve been able to run multiple XP boxes for months without rebooting. That’s right, months. XP runs just as well as 2000. Maybe not when it came out, but it’s fine. If you can’t run XP just as well, guess what, it’s YOUR computer that’s crap.
XP is a decent, if dated OS. MS would have been much better served with a massive update to XP than with releasing Vista. I’ve never had a problem running my XP boxes for months at a time when I so chose.
everyone seems to forget that it took mac 10 operating systems to get it right.
Along with that but people also seem to forget that after SP1 on vista most problems were fixed (at least for me). Now I am not saying that vista is the greatest but I think the vista-hate has ran its course and is kinda retarded. It almost seems like it’s the “cool” thing to do. YA LETS ALL HATE VISTA IT’S SO TRENDY!
nerd win
>for most people there is no viable alternative
I wonder how that nationwide chain of very busy Apple stores stays in business.
Ooh! I know!! Selling overpriced portable media players and phones…
iPods, silly.
and Zunes although considering that only 3 people bought them I’m fairly certain M$ just let that one drop.
Actually, I work in an electronics store, and we sell them all the time. Not a much as Io as iPods, but we do sell quite a few.
Less than 10% market share does not a viable alternative make. Don’t let the commercials fool you, Mac still lags heavily behind windows and makes a significant portion of their income from iPods, iPhone, iTunes, and related sources.
Aside from many of the same reasons I listed below, Macs are basically just expensively skinned Unix machines based on last-generation hardware with significant price premium tacked on. The main places Mac outshines Linux are in user interface (and Linux can equal that with a few add-ons), and driver support, which Macs achieve by only supporting a limited set of semi-proprietary hardware. On the other hand, I will say that I much prefer Linux to Macs, and may be a bit biased.
That should say reasons above, most of which apply equally to Mac and Linux.
I still fail to see how “not a viable alternative” can be believed when Apple now has enough cash to buy Dell. What it means that Apple is not a viable alternative…for you, but clearly viable to (literally) millions of other users.
“Not a viable alternative” as a general statement does not explain why Apple now has more cash on hand than Microsoft and enough to buy Dell (check the recent news).
“Not a viable alternative” does not explain why Mac laptops are found helping to land rovers on Mars.
http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/people/20040103_Sp_EDL_01-br.html
You’d think that rocket scientists would not go for form over function, but I guess maybe they would like to run mainstream apps like Office and Unix apps simultaneously That would mean that neither Windows nor Linux is a viable alternative to fulfill that requirement.
It also doesn’t explain why so many Mac reviews on Amazon are by Windows switchers who are so glad to be outta there.
Wow, all you are doing is regurgitating news instead of thinking. I already explained that cash on hand does not equal sales, or success, for devices running OSX, rather for the company as a whole. Additionally, I never said they have no function. OSX is unix based, which makes it very stable and solid. Combining that with the limited hardware options increases that stability. However, those same restrictions, when combined with the fact that people are paying nearly a 200% premium for Mac hardware, are what prevent it from being viable.
By definition, a viable alternative would have more than a “niche” market shate. <10% is a niche.
Finally, are you seriously citing Amazon reviews as a source of reliable information? That alone should disqualify you from any further discussion.
Wow…Apple hardware is priced competitively for similar hardware, apple doesn’t use
low-end crap like dell does. You aren’t going to get a laptop by them for $500. If you
go configure laptops by companies like HP, Sony, and Lenovo to have similar specs to a
Mac Laptop you will find that the “Mac tax” is nothing but a myth. Do your research and
grow a brain before you go spouting non-sense on the web, thats why society is getting
dumber. SHEESH! >_<
Seriously? YOU might wanna do some research before YOU go spouting off nonsense about a brain. Lets look “similar” laptops from the others. By Similar I mean 2.6 GHz C2D, 320GB HD, 4GB RAM, 17″ widescreen display. The Macbook is $3148, a Dell, with a better graphics card, is $2549 ($600 cheaper), A Lenovo, WITH a 2.8 GHz C2D is $2799 ($350 cheaper), and an HP WITH the 2.8 GHz C2D AND a significantly better graphics card is $2246 (over $800 cheaper). Sony was $1949 with a 2.8 GHz and a 16.4″ display, which is over $1000 cheaper. Granted, that with Windows Home Premium, but even upgrading to ultimate only adds $150 to the cost, which still leaves every one of them with BETTER hardware at lower cost. Just for Kicks, I priced out a 15.4″ Ubuntu laptop at Dell with as close to identical specs as you can get, and it was $1874, which is almost $1300 dollars (another midrange laptop) cheaper.
Again, ALL of them were cheaper, and include better hardware, in some cases significantly better. What was that about doing research and growing a brain?
FAIL.
It doesn’t help that corporate servers are sold as Microsoft compatible, and the bulk of revenue for computer companies is through huge corporations like Ford or Disney. As long as those large companies are getting what they need from Microsoft, they don’t have much incentive to change.
Market share is not identical to viability as an alternative. Many people use OSes other than MS Windows all day, every day; the alternatives they use are perfectly viable for their needs.
There may not be “viable alterantives” for some people, but there are for many. In fact, I think there are viable alternatives for the majority — and, if that majority made the switch, their alternatives would very quickly become viable alternatives for the rest of them, as well.
I don’t disagree with there being viable alternatives for many people. They are not yet viable for the masses, or more realistically, the masses aren’t yet ready for them. As for market share, I am well aware that it does not indicate viability, but it DOES help to indicate public perception of viability, which in this industry is important.
As I said, I love Linux, and use it on my desktop (I run XP in a VM when I need it, except gaming). I also understand the mindset of most Windows users, and they aren’t really ready for Linux as it stands now. As for OSX, like I said, I feel like its over-priced, nicely skinned Unix on over-priced, last-gen hardware.
i agree that mac is still behind, but don’t you think all of the dissatisfaction with windows and the many people switching to (and loving) macs will continue to cause rapid growth of macs? maybe my environment is not representative or something, but i am a student at mit and most of the people here (mostly long-time windows users) are switching to macs when upgrading their systems (i will probably do the same next time i can afford to upgrade). i assumed that the masses were doing the same…
Apple: The Fischer Price Activity Center for Adults.
Apple: The Fischer Price Activity Center for Adults.
Double comment PHAIL
Spelling fail too: it’s Fisher-Price
You FAIL at spelling FAIL.
-grins and hugs- finally another person who sees the twufe! (truth, sorry. got a little carried away.
Problems with my Windows XP computer in doing anything I ever want it to with ease: 0%
Problems with persistent users of other OSes who can’t just shut their mouth’s about how great they have been lead to believe their given OS is: 100%
XP is a perfectly capable OS in the same way that a Ford Focus is aperfectly capable car.
Hm, maybe you just don’t know what you’re doing? See, I’ve got quite an array of programs installed on my PC, I delve into just about all the aspects of using a computer, and I’ve yet to find an issue with running XP and not being able to do something I need OR want to do on my computer.
Actually, I would wager I know a significant amount more than you about computers and XP, but that’s an aside. Obviously you didn’t get my analogy. XP is fine as an OS, but there are so many additional features out there, and other OSes that perform better now, that it is now pretty vanilla. Hence the Focus, whereas OSX and Linux would be akin to luxury or sports cars. And Vista would be a Pinto…
Actually, I would wager I know a significant amount more than you about computers and XP, but that’s an aside. Obviously you didn’t get my analogy. XP is fine as an OS, but there are so many additional features out there, and other OSes that perform better now, that it is now pretty vanilla. Hence the Focus, whereas OSX and Linux would be akin to luxury or sports cars. And Vista would be a Pinto…
Stupid double post… grumble….
I used to drive a pinto back in the day! It was a great little car. It was my first car and I remember it fondly. I hate vista! I use both Linux and Windows. When the software people get a clue I will drop windows like a hot potato. Evil Bill has them all in his pocket!
I’m what you might call an “IT professional”. I’m even maginally “Internet Famous” as such. I know a lot about computers. I have Microsoft certifications. I used to hack the MS Windows Registry by hand on a daily basis, doing disaster recovery work professionally. I’ve run corporate networks that included MS Windows desktops, laptops, and servers.
I learned more about MS Windows by contrast with other OSes, once I stepped outside the Microsoft comfort zone, than I did from focusing on MS Windows. Once I started learning how a lot of other OSes work, how they’re constructed and managed, I learned a heck of a lot more about MS Windows by examining its differences from those other OSes.
It’s a concept that many people who’ve never spent more than five minutes or so in front of a computer that doesn’t run MS Windows just cannot grasp. It’s entirely outside the range of their experience. Something tells me you’re one of those people.
I felt, at one time, like you do; that I’d never found anything MS Windows couldn’t do that I wanted it to do. Since then, I’ve discovered a lot of stuff other OSes do with greater facility than MS Windows, or that they do and MS Windows simply doesn’t do at all. The idea here isn’t that the relationship between MS Windows and other OSes has changed — it’s that, back in the good ol’ days, I didn’t know what I was missing.
and an example would be?
Look, pal. I can’t shut up, and here’s why.
Because every app I can’t use because I’m on Ubuntu, things like Photoshop CS4, various games, so on and so forth, every. single. one. reminds me that I’m being inconvenienced because of all you other people still using windows and leading companies to believe that it’s not worthwhile to make apps for linux based operating systems.
Until applications are written for platforms based on their merits, It seems the best way for me to get what I want is to convert as many people as I possibly can, and until I have every single application I want on the platform I use, I’m not going to stop my attempts to convert more.
Well, then that says something about you that I need not say.
What — that (s)he’s a person of principle, who chooses the platform based on its merits and tries to help others do the same because that would be better for everyone including (him/her)self? Yeah. I thought of that too.
Alright, Doctor, how else do I get what I want?
There’s one good thing though: It acually does what you want it to do, unlike some other systems *cough, cough*macs*cough*
Or you could use OpenOffice Calc.
Excel was basically stolen from VisiCalc, which was supposed to be free…
Now, James, when you compare that to Ubuntu, how much are you still going to blame on the user?
If someone’s system behaves in a way then otherwise desired because they are not willing to configure the system properly, install patched drivers or find the software they need then, yes, I am going to continue blaming the users. My point is that the OS is not to blame for most user issues.
Ubuntu is much more unstable on my system than Windows XP. It crashes every couple of days. Why? Hardware driver support. Is that Ubuntu’s fault? Nope, sure isn’t. It’s the vendors refusing to open up.
Yeah…. nVidia drivers in 8.04 piss me off.
Hopefully the ones in 8.10 suspend more reliably.
Yeah, my mac sucks. It got infected with a virus and there was no way of removing it. The computer had to get purged. The mac operating system sucks so much, it can’t remove a simple… um… wait. It was a macro virus. Yes that’s right, a MICROSOFT macro virus. Macros are little applications that attach to your documents to make them auto update and other useful stuff, a nice feature in MS Word. Unfortunately, MS also decided that you shouldn’t be able to remove the micros, and if you disable them, then you can’t edit your document. That makes perfect sense, why would anyone want to remove a potentially viral program? What if they did it on accident? They might SUE! So of course MICROSOFT made sure that the user had no power over the micros, and thus when my computer, a mac, was infected, there was no way of removing it say using a purge of all infected documents. In all my life of using Macs, the only problem I’ve ever had with them was due to a Microsoft product.
Wow, that’s a remarkably simplistic viewpoint. There are significantly more than two reasons for Windows to crash, starting with any one of hundreds of DLL errors… Speaking of understanding…
XP is a good operating system. Vista is garbage. Both could gain a LOT from the influence of other OSes.
Vista isn’t garbage. I’ve never had a problem with it.
From a programmers or IT support specialists point of view, it is garbage. It takes nearly 3 times the system resources to perform anywhere from the same to about 15% worse than the competition.
and half of the interface that a regular user uses is totally unnecessary, or misleading. and IT guys have to learn whats real or not to fix the computer.
WOW…
You guys have me so impressed with all your knowledge and terminology. I am swooning. As a matter of fact, I can’t get up from my desk because I’m all wet and sticky now! Besides that, I still have an erection. I really should sue you all for what it’s going to cost to have my chair replaced and my carpet cleaned.
CAMEPT IN MY PANTS WIN!
I still use XP.
I have to reinstall it like every few months, and I go to Linux every once in a while,
but XP isn’t toooooo horrible.
Vista, though….
Like I said, XP isn’t too bad it you reinstall once a year or so. Its just hard to beat the flexibility and volume of free software that comes with Linux…
yeah,
but I’m too lazy for customising a minimal installation and Ubuntu feels almost as bloated as vista. of course, they’re apples and oranges.
but I guess I’m just lazy.
lol, for a minute there I was like: “Why does everyone keep talking about the squinty tongue-sticking out smiley?” and then I remembered…
XD
Lack of Emoticons Fail.
Great post!
New Ubuntu tomorrow by the way!
I’m on it now and its FRICKING AMAZING!
My mom should get her Ubuntu Dell tomorrow too, but I’m advising her to stick to the preinstalled 8.04 for a month or two so I can be sure she doesn’t run into any serious bugs.
Considering I JUST had to reformat my hard drive three days ago, this hits right home.
Which is probably a result of something you did, not because of some inherent problem with the operating system.
That’s part of why I LOVE ubuntu, leah.
It _does_ come with the programs I actually need.
This graph was amazing. Many, many props.
I am a student at Texas A&M, and we get Office for 20$
Although I’m sure we cover the rest of that cost in tuition lol
$20? You’re getting ripped off.
I applaud the maker of this
Well done, sir/ma’am. Well done.
I agree. This graph = WIN
I don’t get it. I have windows vista and I have no idea why people hate it. =/ It’s works just fine for me….
It works just fine for me too. I’ve had very few screens of death and such, MUCH less than I had on XP. Guess other people are just unlucky?
It isn’t that its a bad system, its that people are too stupid to use it in most cases. Working with computer repair and stuff on a regular basis, it isn’t as ‘customer friendly’ as some other operating systems. Really though, it doesn’t matter how simple you make computers…there will still be those too dumb to use them. You’re lucky because you have common sense. You don’t know how rare that is in this world lol
Actually, it IS because its a bad system. Its a resource hog that is unfriendly to programmers and Driver writers, and it has a flawed view of security. Vista would be OK (though still flawed) if Windows operated under the same hardware principals as OSX, but it doesn’t, thus driver issues galore.
All the time they spent developing it, and even MS is quietly acknowledging that it is basically a failure.
Driver what? I have no idea what that is but it’s not making me hate vista and wanna switch to Mac. =/ If anything, apple’s PC-Mac ads make me wanna avoid everything apple-related cuz they keep talking about the problems with vista and crashing and stuff that I’ve never experienced. =/
Oh, those ads are terrible and largely full of lies. My point was just that from a technical perspective, Vista is poorly designed, and could have been much better.
vista wasnt designed because they needed to replace XP, it was designed because good graphics card were dropping below 200 dollars.
I hate the Automatic Update thing. I click “Restart Later”, and it comes up just 2 minutes later, NOT 2 hours later, which I would like!
Oh hey, there’s a little blue circular arrow sitting in my notification area..
patiently…
not throbbing, not spinning, not popping up notifications..
I’ll just take my sweet
sweet
time….
You think your annoyance is bad, back before I switched to Ubuntu, Automatic Update ATE A THREE PAGE PAPER I was working on until 1 AM. It did so.. at 3 AM, actually. For some reason I was using an old version of Office instead of OpenOffice, and Office didn’t autosave stuff *pshh*, and I was so tired I didn’t remember to do it myself of course..
Bad, bad memories. *shudder*
Me too — and *WHY* does it always pop up when I’m in the middle of a huge project?
because your doing it @ 1 am on a sunday
Simple solution: Instead of clicking on “remind me later” grab the window and move it to the very end of the screen until only a few pixels remain visible.
Yes, that is a very typical WinXP workflow.
The problem with doing that is that it pops up not only with the choices to restart now, or restart later, but it also has a stupid countdown that will automatically shut your system down in like a minute if you don’t respond. They should include a “remind me in x amount of time” or a “remind me never” option! arggggg Only upon reading this page did I realize I could disable those stupid things! Time to go do that now…
this is why you dont use automatic updates and do it yourself manually one night a week when you go to bed
WIN
“Slow to boot up”? Maybe Vista, and ol’ 2k. Not true for XP or 98.
“Loaded with useless programs”? I think that’s called a “Linux distro”.
“Automatic restart”? Never seen that on Windows… but my lone Linux box keeps telling me “I cannot stress this enough, you must reboot SOOON!”.
“Planned obsolescence” – who cares? I’ve got a MS-DOS 2.0 PC and a Windows 98 laptop (for fun) and they still work fine. No security issues either
“Program needs to close” – not an OS issue.
The only real problem with Windows is that it has the largest and least elitist, therefore (on average) dumbest user base… that’s where I think the bad reputation actually comes from.
” “Loaded with useless programs”? I think that’s called a “Linux distro. ”
Yes, because you don’t put Firefox, Pidgin, Paint.NET and Notepad 2 on every windows install you use, right?
I happen to find them all quite useful. Windows doesn’t even come with a fricking bittorent client.
NOBODY CARES
She _didn’t care_ to learn what a .com executable was.
She _didn’t care_ to learn what antivirus to use and how to use it, and
she _didn’t care_ to learn about firewalls and crap.
..today, my sister uses Ubuntu.
and by “so” i meant “xp.” typed from an touch.
More software? I can install any of about 20,000 different pieces of software on my laptop right now, with just a few keystrokes, for free — and perfectly legally. I can find all of them search through the whole pile for what I need, and start the install process in about one minute. I don’t have to do a Google search to do it — hell, I don’t even need a GUI if I don’t want to use one. I don’t have to go to a store or order anything from Newegg or eBay or Amazon (oh my). I don’t even need an installation “wizard”. I’d have a hard time finding even 1,000 pieces of software for MS Windows if you gave me all day to do it. All this — despite the fact that the OS on this system (FreeBSD) only has the second biggest software repository I’ve seen for a single operating system. I don’t think this suggests you’re better off on MS Windows than any other OS if you want “more software”.
As already pointed out, there are a lot of reasons MS Windows might crash. Among them: memory leaks and improperly terminating processes (MS Windows memory management sucks), close coupling between system components (if one application crashes it could bring down the whole OS), and the incompetence of the system to properly deal with bad behavior from third-party applications all rate fairly high. Don’t forget about the built-in stupidities that keep cropping up, such as the uptime counter roll-over bug MS Windows had a few years back. While you may personally have only seen one BSOD in seven years, I saw a whole lot of them, because for a while dealing with MS Windows disasters was my job — and a lot of the crashes had nothing to do with bad hardware or bad third party drivers. In fact, some of the worst were thanks to bad MS Windows system updates — such as XP’s SP2 deciding to delete the driver for the SATA hard drive on which XP was installed. That was a fun one.
Disabling automatic restarts works — except when Microsoft sends out a patch that overrides that setting. Yes, it happens.
About the patch overriding..umm…if you say so. I’ve never seen that happen in XP.
of course the tps reports would turn into a nerd-off
We’re in a war for your souls.
Actually, as I stated above, I couldn’t care less about your ‘soul’, I just want Adobe to make their stuff for linux, and your ‘soul’ is simply a means to achieve that.
Kantianism fail.
This picture is retarded and the submitter is a jerk. Don’t like automatic updates? Turn them off. Programs crashing? That’s YOUR computer that sucks. Don’t throw stones at Windows for no reason. Isn’t it kind of funny I can run XP with no problems at all? It’s not the OS that’s the problem, it’s brain-dead users. Now STFU and switch to a mac if that makes you happy.
This person knows what they are talking about!
Wow, do I spot intelligent life forms?
Because I’m seeing comments that don’t merely consist of “lol”, “fail” and “first”.
It’s a miracle. O.O
lol fail?
The dialog boxes are a nice touch, BTW.
I have a Mac desktop and love it… I also had a laptop, Gateway running Vista, and except for having to download a few drivers for external drives, I love it. Neither machines have proven to give me any big problems, but then I don’t load as much software as maybe some of you do.
I run a small business, very small right now…like so small you’d step on it…you can’t see it from space either…and I’m told by the local Apple Store mgr that they are now pushing into the last bastion of profits for MS…business. If they’re successful there, watch out…because for creative uses, the Mac rocks… But for business software, I have to still use my old PC laptop Gateway…Which is why I own Gateways, have had 3 and never problems with any of them machines…
So…I don’t HATE Window, or Vista or whatever they’re calling. it… I don’t love it either, which is why I have a Mac…Macs are better for creative stuff, and PC’s run more business related software, like my Gateway, which I have had three, and they all run well…I don’t run all three at the same time, that would be retarded…I owned them in succession, one after the other, and they all worked well, except for once I was surfing porn and got hijacked, but I cleaned that up, purchased McAfee AV and now I surf for porn quite easily.
Bit torrents are illegal…and soon you all will be discovered, like in the days of the first Napster programs… beware… Al Gore is watching.
I get what you are trying to say, but you do realize that bit torrents are in no way, shape, or form illegal right?
i dont know where torrent was mentioned before but it is perfectly legal to download a copy of windows( or any operating system) as long as you have a legitimate license, the same goes for video games.
I always seem to have problems with windows, not too computer savy, otherwise I would’ve went with something else.
Every time the words “Windows” and “Linux” are spoken (typed?) at the same place it grows to a huuuuge discussion.. : )
I don’t think of one being better than the other. Most linux users say Windows is bad cause:
1) Crashes.
2) Viruses, Spywares, Adwares, Worms, Rootkits..
3) It’s expensive.
4) Bloated with useless programs.
My opinions:
1) It doesn’t crash by itself. Often the cause of the crashes are bad software (applications and device drivers) or bad hardware. The problem is HOW it deals with these fails. Windows’ components are closely linked to each other, and if one fails, it is easy for it to bring the entire OS down to the floor. Linux, on the other side, has a more modular architecture, so when a component fails, it doesn’t affect the entire OS (for example, in linux my wireless card driver usually crashes [it's a beta]. the only thing that happens is that my wireless card stops working. if it were in windows, it would present a nice Blue Screen.)
2) Windows is as resistant to viruses as linux. The problem? Mainly the user and the default configurations. In Windows, after installing it, you are presented with an Administrator account. This poses a huge security flaw. In the majority of linux distributions, the administrator (“root”) account is disabled by default, so there are no risk of malwares tampering with the system. Also, the closely related system components makes privilege escalation easier on Windows.
3) It’s expensive. Yes, it is. No comments on that.
4) Bloated with useless programs? No. They try to cover as much users as they will have, i. e. one software you don’t use, other person may need. The same applies to Linux.
And Windows users say Linux is bad because:
1) Bloated with useless programs.
2) Few programs available.
3) Hard to use.
4) Little hardware support.
My opinion on:
1) Bloated with useless programs? No. They try to cover as much users as they will have, i. e. one software you don’t use, other person may need. The same applies to Windows.
2) When speaking about everyday use applications, this is false. When talking about games, it is false too. Linux has a huge library of games, and I think they are more fun than Windows’ ones. They are just simpler, that’s it. People just don’t want to be different. They want to play the games everybody is playing.. When talking about business applications, linux does not have a good library. For example, where I work, they deal with geology. I have never seen programs similar to that they use for Linux; on the other hand I am sure they are easy to port; the algorithm and calculations the program does is what is important. Blame the developers.
3) Actually it’s not hard to use, for example, distributions like Ubuntu are easier than Windows. It is just different. I would say it is hard to configure. One day or another you will need to use the command-line.
4)Little hardware support. Blame the hardware vendors. They don’t develop linux drivers cause they think it will not be worth their while, few people will use it. So, more people go towards Windows, cause its device driver support is better. With more people using Windows, the vendors develop more drivers for Windows, and its device driver support becomes better, and more people go towards Windows………………………
I use Linux 99% of the time. It was very hard to get all of it working on my laptop (device drivers). I only come back to Windows to play Call of Duty 4. Recently I discovered it runs on Wine. I’ll try it, if it works, I will close my windows.
Good post.
linux doesnt have viruses for the same reason that macs dont.
This guy says that Linux is better than Windows, which I object to because I grew up as a Windows user.
I’m using Windows 7 Starter on my HP netbook and loving it.
Customization FTW.
So um… where’s the Mac failure chart? I was fed up with Windows until I decided to use an iMac… sodding thing crashed three times on day one, and that was just the beginning…..
go to youtube and search for “Crash Differently”
Has no one even noticed the blatant photoshop fail in this picture? The dialog boxes aren’t even from the same OS… One’s from XP and the other’s from an earlier OS.
They are both from XP, however, one is using the “Classic” UI, and one is not.
planned obsolescence? are you a cutco/vector man? if that makes no sense, ignore comment.
I like windows.
The only reason people like mac is to fit in.
Did no one else notice that the two windows in this picture are different styles? One is XP and one is older Windows.
this FAILS
the error message is from Windows XP
the automatic update message is from Windows Classic
dont hate on Windows.
Caiocc may a good argument above, but let me give you my opinion in the same format as he gave his.
I) Windows
1) Crashes
Windows, as caiocc said, is very tightly woven together as far as components go, both in software and in hardware. Contrary to what he said, Windows does not actually crash if one component fails. Let’s say the video card crashes. Windows XP SP3 (And possibly older versions) will reconfigure the video settings at the sudden loss of the video capabilites. This has happened to me, and while albet annoying trying to fix your drivers while running on 8-bit colors, does provide a way for the user to continue using the computer even after an important component fails. If an extremely important component of your computer fails, Windows will lock itself down and shut itself off to prevent any further damage to the component(s) involved. Some people may say this is annoying and an inconvinence, but image how much more of an inconvinence it would be if your proccessor actually broke because Windows didn’t shut itself down! In most cases, though, it is the user that installs a harmful application onto the computer, downloads a file off the internet that has a virus, or something else that causes Windows to crash.
2) Viruses
Windows has a built-in security suite that can handle most viruses, worms, etc., that may try to harm your computer. What most people don’t know is that these settings have to be manually configured to work on your computer. Newer versions of Windows always prompt the user to configure the security settings after you log into the Admin account for the first time.
In spite of the fact that Windows has a powerful built in security suite, it still lacks some neccesary features. The security suite can hold it’s own, but it is highly recommended that you buy a security suite from a certified vendor to back up Windows (I use CA Internet Security Suite).
3) Price
Windows Vista Basic costs around $100 or less, while the more powerful versions can cost up to around $200-$300, give or take. While Windows is relativley expensive (A good computer costs about $800), it is well worth the price in my opinion. I prefer Windows XP over Vista, though, as I do admit that Vista was one of the worst things Microsoft has ever put on the WWM. Linux, on the other hand, (I think) is free, but lacks alot of the important features that you get from Windows.
4) Compatibility
Windows is compatible with almost all software and hardware on the market today, and can easily be customized to the user’s needs. Some people say that Windows comes with way too many programs. I beg to differ, as I use and used almost every program that came with Windows, except for the McAfee Internet Security Suite, which actually came from the manufacturer, and not Microsoft.
II) Linux
1) Compatibility
Linux is compatible with a wide range of programs and can work with most hardware. Linux, however, is not compatible with most programs such as the Microsoft Office Suite (which I use on a regular basis) and most video games on the market. As caiocc pointed out, Linux does have a wide library of programs availible for the user to use, but still does not have the ability to use most programs, unlike Windows. For gamers, Windows is a definite must, as Linux is not compatible with most main-stream games. If you need a small, nimble OS, which has a wide variety of programs that can be used for very specialized needs, get Linux. If you need a large, powerful OS that can be used for general needs as well as some specialized needs, get Windows.
2) Useless Programs
Linux is very specialized in the programs it can use, and thusly does not really have any “useless programs” as you can select any program you need from their library.
3) User Friendliness
Linux is a rather easy to use system and requires little reconfiguration before it can be used. Linux is rather easy to use, but also maybe a little hard for users accustomed to OSes like XP or Macintosh.
4) Hardware Support
Hardware support for Linux is not availible because manufacturers do not believe very many people will use Linux or any other OSes save for Windows, and thusly do not support it. Perhaps if Linux becomes as big as Mac manufactuerers will then begin supporting Linux.
Please do not flame me.
Thanks,
An anonymous guy
That’s like Windows 95!!!
At that time, all computers were lame.
Get XP.
… and Windows 7 when it comes out.
what are you on, like windows 95?
lol
mine never crashes..
although sometimes its a little slow to start
three year old pc …
i use a PIRATED version of vista ultimate, PIRATED version of ms office, and PIRATED softwares. It works well. no crash up to date. used these for 2 years now. but i always use windows update almost every week.
i have Windows AND a Macbook.Mac is the best by far and with my windows i had to clean it (take it to IT and erase all memory to clear of viruses) TWICE in the last week and my Macbook hasnt even got one virus yet!!
haha win
A very nice thread.
) ) and homework + multimedia/internet. Windows XP, Vista and 7 are all perfectly capable of this task, they run quite well, don’t remember when any of them crashed last time and no viruses (none noticeable at least). I’ll adapt to another OS when I’ll have to.
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Personally, I don’t care what OS is better or has more functions. At the moment, all I need is a platform for video games (modern, relatively engaging, hard-core-ish even
I also tried Ubuntu and I liked it (no driver shortage here). The only thing missing is the Direct X support for modern games
LOL!!!!!! i love this graph!!!!! i am a mac through and through!!!
There’s a registry hack to stop the auto restart after updates are applied.
Google it.
I’m not held liable if you blow up your machine with wrongful registry tinkering. Although I can’t see how, because it’s just flipping a bit, but I guess anything’s possible.
I am so frustrated. Once again, (and I might say, often), Microsofts lousy software has failed me. I wanted to put my computer back to factory settings, so I followed the instructions in the pop up window. Imade backup disks; I made 7 and labeled them exactly as the pop up windows specified. Then I set my computer back to factory settings. When I put the backup disks in my E drive, some of the disks were blank and others could not be accessed. I lost semi-valuable information. When is Microsoft going to get it- or will someone run you out of business before you get it. Stop having programmers designing the instruction etc for the average person using your products. Few of us are programmers- so stop letting programmers write instruction etc that we non-programmers must follow. Programmers write software that most of us are clueless about how write. On the other hand, programmers are clueless about how we average people think. PLEASE! OH, PLEASE consult only with us everyday people when writing instruction, or testing how well people interact with the program. Programmers should be banned from all these discussions regarding these and other such topics.
Programmers should have no input at all into how to set up the things that we, the average person, must use; they don’t think like the rest of us. Ban them from all discussions and meetings regarding public interfacing with the programs, then deliver the instructions to them, and then tell them exactly how to do the layout for menus, the language in pop-up boxes, and anything else that the public tells you. Finally, keep sending the proto types back to them, until they do it the way we want done, and not the way their creative brains want to do it.
You might start with making your feedback page for Windows simpler to use. I went there and finally gave up and decided to email from Google. I know, I know, the people who designed the page are taking it personally, because I could not easily use it. Other people such as google get it- make the sites we use simple, really simple for we who are ignorant.
Please!, Please, have the programmers swallow their pride. Tell them to do what they do best- write the code for programmers, And let the rest of us do what we do best- we know what we find user friendly and are willing to tell you.
Signed:
I just lost more data, and wasted a lot of time.